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Originally Posted by CheekyBird
It is completely reasonable to require that voters present valid identification that permits them to vote. It is only after being challenged in court that several states that engaged in unreasonable ID requirement practices NOW have reasonable requirements.
Voter suppression ID practices include disallowing student IDs, requiring 80 year-olds who don't drive but have voted since blacks were permitted to vote produce birth certificates or travel miles to obtain "valid" voter identification.
Voter ID Laws notwithstanding, it is completely dishonest to suggest that there haven't been efforts to make voting (particularly for minorities and poor people who would vote democratic) if not difficult, frustrating.
Here's a compilation of quotes and efforts towards that end:
Governor Chris Christie: Same-Day Voter Registration Is a “Trick” and GOP Needs to Win Gubernatorial Races So They Control “Voting Mechanisms”
***(Let me hasten to add that I am conflicted about same day registration. There should be a voter registration period and deadlines that must be adhered to, but it is not a "trick" and why should the GOP "control" voting mechanisms??)***
Georgia Senator Fran Miller Complains About Polling Place Being Too Convenient for Black Voters: “[T]his location is dominated by African-American shoppers and it is near several large African-American mega churches such as New Birth Missionary Baptist… Is it possible church buses will be used to transport people directly to the mall since the poll will open when the mall opens?
In 2012, Republican officials in Ohio were limiting early voting hours in Democratic-majority counties, while expanding them on nights and weekends in Republican counties. In response to public outcry, Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted mandated the same early voting hours in all 88 Ohio counties. He kept early voting hours from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. on weekdays from October 2 to 19 and broadened hours from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. from October 22 to November 2. But he refused to expand voting hours beyond 7 p.m. during the week, on weekends or three days prior to the election — which is when voting is most convenient for many working-class Ohioans. Here’s what the Franklin Party (Columbus) Ohio GOP chair, Doug Preis said about limiting early voting. “I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine.” ( And yes, he actually said “read African-American,” that wasn’t inserted.)
In an interview last year with The Daily Show, Don Yelton, a GOP precinct chair in Buncombe County, North Carolina, defended the state’s new voter ID law, saying so many offensive things, he was asked to resign the day after it aired. Yelton admits at the start of the segment that the number of Buncombe County residents who commit voter fraud is one or two out of 60,000 a year. The interview correspondent, Aasif Mandvi, replies that those numbers show “there’s enough voter fraud to sway zero elections,” and[b] then Yelton replies, [/B ]“Mmmm…that’s not the point.” He goes on to say that “if it hurts a bunch of lazy blacks that want the government to give them everything, so be it.” and then adds, “The law is going to kick the Democrats in the butt.”
More: http://billmoyers.com/2014/10/24/voter-discrimination/ |
In 2000, there were some overseas ballots of servicemen that hadn't been counted. Gore and Lieberman tried to block those ballots from being counted. There are some politicians on both sides of the aisle that will try to win at any cost. But in general I think the vast majority of citizens on both sides think that anyone who is a citizen should be able to vote, and I also think that the vast majority of citizens on both of the aisle think that you should be required to show a valid ID when you vote.
As I said before, California is a joke. No ID is required. You walk in to the polling place and you tell them your name. Then they ask you for your address, you give it to them, they find it on their list, you sign your name, they cross your name off and give you your ballot. But as I said before, every person's address is posted outside the polling place. So if a person wanted to they could find a name that has not voted yet (the list is updated every 2 hours) and then walk in and claim to be that person. There would be practically no way to get caught. How insane is that? If anyone bothered checking the signatures after the fact, they would see that the signature doesn't match, but nobody at the polling place checks your signature with the signature database. I don't think they even have access to the signature database at the polling place. I don't know if anyone goes over the signatures after the election is over. If they did, it would be too late at that point any way. Maybe they could throw that ballot out. But the person who tried to vote under the fake name could not be caught. There would be no way of knowing who the person was who tried to vote under the phony name.
The other thing that is ridiculous is that there are probably over 1 million illegal aliens who vote. How do they get away with it? It is simple. Anyone can register to vote. They are not allowed to ask you for proof of citizenship. How ridiculous is that? If you walk in to register to vote and you can hardly speak English, shouldn't they ask you to see proof of citizenship? Of course they should. But they are not allowed to. It is illegal for them to ask you for proof of citizenship. That is insane. So how many illegal aliens actually vote? Here are the estimates:
http://watchdog.org/260524/illegal-i...2016-election/