Can Retirement REALLY be Far Behind?
 

From Friday's DRF.....


The Green Monkey turned out
By DAVID GRENING

OZONE PARK, N.Y. - The Green Monkey, who sold for a world-record $16 million at the Fasig-Tipton 2-year-old-in-training auction earlier this year, has been sent to his owner’s farm in Kentucky and won’t make it to the races until next year.

Gee now there's a surprise. :rolleyes:

I think retirement might be in the best interest of the horse at this point.
Besides, he really doesn't have anything else to prove.
He obviously looked like one of the best we've seen in a long long time.

If they want to save embarrassment, it's the best option...

So hilarious...the sick thing is that they would probably still make money off him in the shed, eventually

How about starting with justification for his $16 million price?

The true punch line in all of this is if TGM is sterile or "not interested."

There is no way to justify that.

this is funny.
but its not like he has to run to be given a chance to succeed at stud.
Tiger Ridge never won a race and he is an excellent sire.
although I dont think its really a good thing that a horse that cant even make it to the starting gate should be making more like himself.


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For some reason this struck me as hilariously funny. I literally had to try to explain it to my wife, who's not a horseplayer, and for some reason she couldn't understand the humor in the statement "looked like one of the best we've seen in a long long time." Thanks, you seriously made my T-giving.

Great, I'm glad someone got it! Just carrying to the extreme some of the stuff that has been going on lately. :)

i heard about the pissing contest behind this one..he basicley ruined juddmont.....let them giants causways rot like pumpkins..

There are plenty of horses that don't make their first start until half-way through their 3 year old year, so I wouldn't write the horse off yet. Don't get me wrong, you wouldn't pay several million dollars for a horse if you knew that he wouldn't be able to start until half-way through his 3 year old year. This is certainly not a positive development. But I still wouldn't write the horse off yet.

By the way, if this horse never makes it to the races, he is pretty much worthless. His pedigree is not that great. His first dam is nothing special. She made $45,000 racing and this is her second foal. Her first foal was still unraced as of February this year according to the catalog at the sale.

It is possible for an unraced horse to have value as a stallion if they have great breeding, but I don't think this horse's breeding is good enough. It would be one thing if you buy a yearling for $5 million who is by Storm Cat out of a grade I winning mare. A horse like that may have some value as a stallion even if he couldn't run. Tiger Ridge is a good example. He only made $11,000 racing but he was by Storm Cat out of Weekend Surprise.

They overpaid for the horse by a million times. I'm not denying that. This horse should have sold for $500,000 or so. And as you said, they were obviously expecting him to run as a 2 year old. I totally agree with you on both of those points.

However, I don't know how you can you say that he will never run in a stakes race. There have been hundreds of horses over the last 10 years that didn't run until they were 3 years old and ended up being stakes horses. It's way too early to say that The Green Monkey won't win a stakes race. It's not too early to say that they paid way too much for him. But it is too early to say that he won't win a stakes race.

Tiznow and Bernardini are two that come to mind right away.

On another forum, I was wondering about something like this. Not particularly with this horse but since he's the subject now, what kind of stud fee do u all think he would be able to bring if he doesn't race? Also, what kind of fee do u think Bernardini could have brought had he went to stud unraced?

I think Bernardini would get $5,000 tops unraced.

Silver Charm has won 2 huge races (Kentucky Derby and Dubai World Cup) with almost $7 mil in earnings. I tink his stud fee started at $25k was dropped to $10k and now he has been shipped over to Japan.

Why does anyone care so much?
The Sheikhs and Coolmore both have bought unmitigated disasters in the last 20 years. Both of em.
The fact that this one at 8 million, ooops I meant 16 million, looks to be a bust shouldn't shock anyone.
No matter how much talent they show as young horses just getting them to the races is about an even money prop, getting them to win a race less than that, getting them to be a stakes horse incredibly hard, and getting them to win a grade one just about impossible statistically.
I haven't understood the Green Monkey watch at all.
I mean, the horse that Sekiguchi has with Baffert who won a slow maiden race earlier this year and then disappeared cost just as much(in actuality) and would be considered a bust as well.
I guess I just have a hard time worrying about a bad buy made by either guys who own oil wells, or a guy who owns the British soccer pools.

by AP Indy out of a G1 mare?
I don't know how much exactly....but prolly more than 5K