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Arletta 05-20-2015 09:26 AM

Churchill Downs Sues DRF for Oaks/Derby bet
 
"Churchill Downs Inc. is suing the Daily Racing Form saying the trade publication's online betting site accepted bets on Kentucky Derby and Oaks days without permission.

In a lawsuit filed Monday in Jefferson Circuit Court, Louisville-based Churchill seeks a court order blocking the Form's DRF Bets online wagering site from taking bets on any Churchill-owned track."

http://www.courier-journal.com/story...bets/27581981/

casp0555 05-20-2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 1027936)
"Churchill Downs Inc. is suing the Daily Racing Form saying the trade publication's online betting site accepted bets on Kentucky Derby and Oaks days without permission.

In a lawsuit filed Monday in Jefferson Circuit Court, Louisville-based Churchill seeks a court order blocking the Form's DRF Bets online wagering site from taking bets on any Churchill-owned track."

http://www.courier-journal.com/story...bets/27581981/

Well that's something we don't have to worry about, right Laura?....:rolleyes:

ateamstupid 05-20-2015 11:51 AM

*wanking motion*

After the takeout hike was such a rousing success, I guess they want to try another avenue to reduce handle.

Arletta 05-20-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1027947)
Well that's something we don't have to worry about, right Laura?....:rolleyes:

True :wf

NTamm1215 05-20-2015 04:37 PM

While neither of the entities involved are going to win popularity contests in the racing world, if it is indeed true that DRF Bets took wagers on the Derby and Oaks without a contract in place, then they are 1000000% wrong and should pay damages beyond the host fees they stiffed CD for.

CD increases their host fee on Oaks/Derby days because of the premium content (as do Pimlico and NYRA on Preakness/Belmont days). But, the suit makes it seem as if they have no contract with CDSN period, which means that DRF Bets cannot offer AP, FG, OP, IND, CD and a few other tracks. Can any DRF Bets customers on the board let us know if that's true?

dellinger63 05-20-2015 04:59 PM

Does twinspires take GP, SA etc.? And if so do they have a contract?

NTamm1215 05-20-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1028013)
Does twinspires take GP, SA etc.? And if so do they have a contract?

Yes and yes.

The sticking point here with this issue is that CDI (presumably) does not have a contract with DRF Bets.

cal828 05-21-2015 12:43 AM

I was going to open a drf account, but didn't because they said they did not offer CDI tracks or Oaklawn.

OTM Al 05-21-2015 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 1028011)
While neither of the entities involved are going to win popularity contests in the racing world, if it is indeed true that DRF Bets took wagers on the Derby and Oaks without a contract in place, then they are 1000000% wrong and should pay damages beyond the host fees they stiffed CD for.

CD increases their host fee on Oaks/Derby days because of the premium content (as do Pimlico and NYRA on Preakness/Belmont days). But, the suit makes it seem as if they have no contract with CDSN period, which means that DRF Bets cannot offer AP, FG, OP, IND, CD and a few other tracks. Can any DRF Bets customers on the board let us know if that's true?

They do not take any CDI tracks. I bet on a couple races Derby day and one or two the day before. I only use DRF Bets. On that day and the day before when I logged in, the screen said Xpressbets not DRF Bets. I believe Xpressbets took my bets that day, not DRF Bets. If this is deemed illegal, then I would appreciate CDI returning the money I bet those days as they should not benefit from it either. I would not have bet the Derby had Xpressbets not been taking my bets that day.

ranger5830 05-21-2015 10:42 AM

If someone who is more familiar with this could please explain, DRF Bets says that all its bets go through xpressbet, and that (quoting from the FAQ) "The XpressBet® legal entity, XpressBet, LLC is responsible for obtaining all licensing, maintaining compliance and contracting." So if Xpressbet has a contract with CDI, and I assume that they do, then doesn't DRF Bets have one as well if they use the Xpressbet platform?

ElPrado 05-21-2015 11:22 AM

Are we going to ask if anyone from CD bothers to tell the judge this?

Danzig 05-21-2015 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ranger5830 (Post 1028070)
If someone who is more familiar with this could please explain, DRF Bets says that all its bets go through xpressbet, and that (quoting from the FAQ) "The XpressBet® legal entity, XpressBet, LLC is responsible for obtaining all licensing, maintaining compliance and contracting." So if Xpressbet has a contract with CDI, and I assume that they do, then doesn't DRF Bets have one as well if they use the Xpressbet platform?

never assume, and when lawyers are involved...i'm out.


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