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Kasept 03-03-2009 08:53 AM

3/4: Aqueduct ($46k C/O)
 
Enticing carryover of nearly $50k at the Big A Wednesday, with a sequence that starts and finishes with lowest level state-bred claiming maidens of 9 and 10 betting interests. In between those, pairs of ALW and CLM events are solid with 6, 7, 9 and 10 horse fields.

Also note the involvement of two NYRA 'Trips and Traps' runners in the sextet, Joe Parker's #4 Edashor (15-1) in the 6th and the perplexing #6 One in a Romp (7-2) from Bernardo Callejas in the 5th. As shown by Andy Serling and Eric Donavon on their weekly YouTube show, Edashor found plenty of traffic trouble in his last when the hot (!) Parker added blinkers. The rednut takes the goggles off, still will have Winston Thompson aboard, and needs to take a real jump forward to win. But he's not impossible.

One in a Romp looks like a turf mare only to me, and simply could be biding her time picking up small checks as Callejas counts the days to the lawn. Note that Spruce Pond refuses to drop her in for a tag. ML third choice can win with the right pace set-up in front of her, but is hard to count on given the fact a "1" has fallen off her PP.


AQUEDUCT


POST-SCRATCHES


4th: NYB-MDN CLM, 3+, 6f (P6, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #7 Roaring Spouse 2-1: Totes 1/62 bullet for 2nd off break.. 3rd
Next Best: #1e Rice entry 9-5: 2 for 1 from Rice includes OK working firster..WON/9th
Best Value: #4 Soonasigetpaid 6-1: With Ryerson now; Decent a.m. moves.. 5th
Exotics Use: #2 My Brother John 15-1: Opens with 'L' & DBL bug; Sire 0/102-FTS.. 7th


5th: NYB-OC/N2X, F&M-4+, 1m (G/S, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #7 Twistaway 5-2: Tactical and will sit nice stalk trip under Ramon.. 2nd
Best Value: #2 Hailey Keen 4-1: Gumpster mare controls this up front.. 4th
Next Best: #6 One in a Romp 7-2: As discussed, likely pace no help to her.. 5th


6th: NYB-CLM, 3yo, 6f (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Race is the lynchpin to the day given placement in P6 and as start of P4.. Features ALW droppers Head Heart Hoof (5-1 and a constant disappointment), Bitabaz (5-1) and Seeyouatsergios (7-2); "new horse" when wiring open claimers last J T Moore (9-2); 'dressed up' returnee Winning Grievance (3-1) from Asmussen who beat less than nothing in New Year's Day career debut; and Trips/Traps victim Edashor..

Most Likely: #3 J T Moore 9-2: Gumption in 2/16 win; Outside pressure (#9) a concern.. 7th
Best Value: #7 Bitabaz 5-1: Beat real horses when good; right dropper on turnback.. WON
Next Best: #1 Head Hoof Heart 5-1: Benzel grey threat on best.. 5th
Super Add: #4 LATE SCR


7th: CLM, 4+, 6f (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #2 GIMMEAROUTINE 3-1: ML fave has all the right tools here.. WON
Best Value: #7 My Golden Opinion 8-1: Barker drops solid 5yo; Returns hood.. 6th
Next Best: #10 Twopunchestogo 7-2: Faltered late in ALW company last.. 4th
Super Add: #4 Cloud Nine 4-1: Duggan a frightening 3 of 5 off claim.. 2nd


8th: OC/N2X, 4+, 6f (DD)

Most Likely: #1 Southern Missle 5-2: Remaining entry part flies late.. 2nd
Best Value: #4 Palmer's Approach 5-1: OK Najran red from Zito cuts back.. 4th
Next Best: #5 Noble Sound 2-1: Stalking Vindy 4yo from Albertrani off 68 days.. WON


9th: NYB-MDN CLM, 3+, 6f (Super)

Tough way to finish skien as top pair seem too obvious and are the kinds that get 'upset' in these low level muskrat rambles. Top Lass from capable Ferraro showed some raw talent at 64-1 in adventerous Valentines Day career debut which could be looked at as a slightly productive affair. To wit, winner of that 2/14 MCLM, Spa Princess, was 4th by 6 Sunday in a state bred ALW that saw Del Carroll-Pont Street heroine Intoxicatingbeauty hang a 67 Beyer. Charming Officer, 3rd ahead of Top Lass, came back to win 2/27 against state bred Special Weights earning a 54 BSF. Flies in the buttermilk from 2/14 race are Wise Pitch, who was a bad third as favorite in mind-numbingly slow affair Sunday (She's Got Thunder, 29 BSF), and the horse that finished 5th behind Top Lass was also a mediocre third versus a painfully slow bunch (Taxadame, 35 BSF). Your call, but if you can live with the 0-0-0 double bug boy, Top Lass is at least an alternative..

Best Value: #9 Top Lass 5-1: Raw debut showed promise; See note above.. 2nd
Most Likely: #8 Billy's Girl 2-1: Achingly close last three; Must finish.. 3rd
Next Best: #3 Knot News 3-1: Versatile Contessa miss returns to Ramon.. WON
Super Add: #4 SCR

$1 Exacta (3-9) Paid $12.80
$1 Trifecta (3-9-8) Paid $27.50



<$300 P6 Play:

4: 1-7
5: 2-7
6: 1-3-[4/SCR]-7
7: 2
8: 1-4-5
9: 3-8-9

2x2x4x1x3x3 = 144 x $2 = $288

$2 Pick 6 (1,8/1/7/2/5/3,4) Paid $47.00 (5OF6) x 2 = $94.00


<$75 P4 Play:

6: 1-3-4-5-7-8
7: 2
8: 1-4-5
9: 3-4-8-9

6x1x3x4 = $72

$1 Pick 4 (7/2/5/3,4) Paid 332.50 x 2 = $665.00 (4OF4)


Good luck!
Steve

pmacdaddy 03-03-2009 04:30 PM

Thanks Steve.

Think Edashor is definitely worth a play, especially with the potential pace scenario.

As much as a don't like to play 0-20 Maidens, I will also look at Distinctive Doc in the finale. Had it rough outside on the inside speed favoring track 2/20 (route attempt as well). Cuts back here. I will try to get her involved if price is BIG.

GL!

colt 45ss 03-04-2009 06:43 AM

steve:
doesn't two punches to go scare the bejesus out of you in the 7th
backing up a little in class and dangerous speed?

Kasept 03-04-2009 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colt 45ss
steve:
doesn't two punches to go scare the bejesus out of you in the 7th
backing up a little in class and dangerous speed?

There are several in the 7th that have run recent races capable of winning here. Twopunches.. Vinman.. Opinion.. Cloud Nine.. Any of them can win this, and Twopunches could be very tough if allowed by Vinman to clear easily. But Gimmearoutine has quality tactical/stalking speed, figures to get an ideal ground-saving trip, and can even get under and stretch a loose leader into the turn if Ramon feels they are getting away. Dominguez a handy guy to have aboard for that style. Need to make a stand somewhere, and in this race you would be forced to use a bunch if you didn't believe in a particular scenario.

colt 45ss 03-04-2009 07:02 AM

thanks for sharing the logic
all the best

Kasept 03-04-2009 10:15 AM

AQU SCR'S

http://www.equibase.com/premium/changes/AQU-changes.asp

3RD: #6 Ace Rewards Early

4TH: #8 Inda Easter Parade Early

8TH: #1A (POE) Trophy Road Early


AQU CHG'S

2ND: 2 Hot Chile Soup +2

3RD: 4 Vortices +4

4TH: 1A Rocknrollsong +4

5TH: 3 Decorated Court +2

9TH: 5 Quad Queens +1

Bigsmc 03-04-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kasept
low level muskrat rambles

:tro:

thunderdan09 03-04-2009 10:32 AM

Good morning fella's.

I have taken a week or so off and haven't had the chance to see if there has been a bias at Aqueduct lately.

Can you please let me know if there has been any type of speed or post bias?

Also, #1 - TOGA TIGER in the first race today ran a game second to OH SO IRISH last time out. Do you think she can get the jump on Dominguez aboard #3 - Spiritual Spirits?

Good luck with the PICK 6 today everyone

Kasept 03-04-2009 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
:tro:

Behooved, but I believe BTW has the trademark on 'muskrat ramble'...

thunderdan09 03-04-2009 10:45 AM

I am playing today, online.

I hit a pick 4 online last week and a couple decent exacta's. made $180 in my TwinSpires account, so I am hanging in there.

Give me a call if you like anything...

mes5107 03-04-2009 11:24 AM

Having a little fun today

1) $4 Win 8, $1 Ex 1,7,8 w/ 1,3,7,8, bet $13

$1 Double 1,7,8 w/ 1,3,7, bet $9

mes5107 03-04-2009 11:55 AM

2) $2 Win 7, $2 QuBx 1,3,7, bet $8

Coach Pants 03-04-2009 12:01 PM

oh no.

NTamm1215 03-04-2009 12:08 PM

That was really ugly. I assumed NY had a rule like California that the race becomes a non-wagering event when less than half the field finishes.

NT

Coach Pants 03-04-2009 12:09 PM

I watched the replay a few times. It looks like all the jockeys might be ok. I hope so.

mes5107 03-04-2009 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I watched the replay a few times. It looks like all the jockeys might be ok. I hope so.

I hope you're right. Quite scary to see one after another go down like that.

Coach Pants 03-04-2009 12:14 PM

If all of them make it out ok you can expect this will be part of the new intro for the hit "reality" show jockeys. :rolleyes:

Kasept 03-04-2009 12:16 PM

Castro off his mount here..

Coach Pants 03-04-2009 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Castro off his mount here..

He was the first one down and did get up briefly to get out of the way.

mes5107 03-04-2009 12:20 PM

How about Dominguez? He looked like he hit pretty hard and didn't move too much after.

Coach Pants 03-04-2009 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mes5107
How about Dominguez? He looked like he hit pretty hard and didn't move too much after.

I thought he landed square on his upper back but after a few replays he landed on his side. So hopefully he's ok

Kasept 03-04-2009 12:29 PM

Castro and Napravnik off remaining mounts.

Coach Pants 03-04-2009 12:30 PM

I hope Napravnik is ok. She was in the middle of that mess and I didn't get a good luck to see if she was moving.

That was a cluster**** of epic proportions.

the_fat_man 03-04-2009 12:33 PM

Have never seen that before (not a single jock was able to veer out to avoid going down) in close to 40 years of watching races.

Hope they're all ok.

blackthroatedwind 03-04-2009 12:45 PM

Castro was taken to Jamaica Hospital but is alert and moving. Nobody else was taken to the Hospital. Ramon obviously rode the following race. Rosie is off her mounts.

Payson Dave 03-04-2009 12:46 PM

omg.... nasty as hell

Coach Pants 03-04-2009 01:47 PM

Late Pick 4
4,7,8
2,4
1,2
3,6,9
$36

Kasept 03-04-2009 01:47 PM

Grening, DRF:

Private Details, a 3-year-old daughter of Toccet, had to be euthanized on the track with a broken left foreleg, but the four other horses in the spill were reported to be okay.


DaSilva, NY Post

Castro being observed and checked for back/neck pain at Jamaica Hospital; Santiago off today/tomorrow; Napravnik likely back tomorrow.

DJARUM 03-04-2009 01:59 PM

Thxs for the update Steve.......

Pk 4
1-8
2-4
1-2-4
6-8-9

declansharbor 03-04-2009 02:03 PM

Hope all is well with the participants in that ugly accident in the 2nd.

Didnt want to create own thread for Gulfstreams late 4. Not sure if I'm going to play these tickets, as the sequence doesnt look too playable. But if I were to, my tickets would read as such...May stab at SA's...Gl all!!!

$1

2,3,4
7,10,13
1,2,5,12
2

.50

2,4
7,10,13
1,2,5,6,9
2,9

66 total...GL to those deciding to play today!! EDIT::: Decided to sit this one out.

fantini33 03-04-2009 02:39 PM

Gulfstream Pick 4

6) 2 3 9
7) 2 5 7 11 13
8) 1 2 5
9) 2 9 12

3x5x3x3=$135x.50= $67.50

Good Luck!

Coach Pants 03-04-2009 02:58 PM

yay.

I love it!!

Good luck, Steve. I'm the worst.

pointman 03-04-2009 03:39 PM

Nice job on the pk4 Steve! :$:

ateamstupid 03-04-2009 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor
Hope all is well with the participants in that ugly accident in the 2nd.

Didnt want to create own thread for Gulfstreams late 4. Not sure if I'm going to play these tickets, as the sequence doesnt look too playable. But if I were to, my tickets would read as such...May stab at SA's...Gl all!!!

$1

2,3,4
7,10,13
1,2,5,12
2

.50

2,4
7,10,13
1,2,5,6,9
2,9

66 total...GL to those deciding to play today!! EDIT::: Decided to sit this one out.

Good decision. F'ing DiMauro knocked me out with that first-timer. Chickenshit connections had a daughter of Successful Appeal out of a stakes-placed mare with a few good siblings debuting in a $15,000 maiden claimer. The horse opened at 11-1, then runs like a million dollar baby and the doubles were crushed even though the win mutuel was $19.60. I hope she got claimed and turns out to be the next Personal freaking Ensign.

DJARUM 03-04-2009 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman
Nice job on the pk4 Steve! :$:

Thanks Steve and Andy as well, why didn't we hit it? Nice job!

Coach Pants 03-04-2009 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Good decision. F'ing DiMauro knocked me out with that first-timer. Chickenshit connections had a daughter of Successful Appeal out of a stakes-placed mare with a few good siblings debuting in a $15,000 maiden claimer. The horse opened at 11-1, then runs like a million dollar baby and the doubles were crushed even though the win mutuel was $19.60. I hope she got claimed and turns out to be the next Personal freaking Ensign.

Walking out of the gate was to her benefit as well.

declansharbor 03-04-2009 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Good decision. F'ing DiMauro knocked me out with that first-timer. Chickenshit connections had a son of Successful Appeal out of a stakes-placed mare with a few good siblings debuting in a $15,000 maiden claimer. The horse opened at 11-1, then runs like a million dollar baby and the doubles were crushed even though the win mutuel was $19.60. I hope she got claimed and turns out to be the next Personal freaking Ensign.

Yea, I was leary of that one. I saw the doubles will-pay and thought for sure the horse was live. Good thing I passed, I wouldve kicked myself in the a$$ for not including Perpetuity on at least one ticket. She did look good though in the stretch, but it could be an optical illusion.

Congrats on the AQU P4 guys!!!

Coach Pants 03-04-2009 03:55 PM

The 9 is absolutely crushed in the pick 3 will pays.


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