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MaTH716 11-21-2007 08:27 AM

Nick Saban is a JERK!
 
I have always thought that he was an overated coach and a pompous A-Hole. I didn't think he was a stupid individual. But, To use 9/11 and Pearl Harbor in the same paragraph with losing football games is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. How do you compare the two most deadliest attacks on the country, to losing football games? I know that they are trying to spin it as a coming together as a team thing (like the country came together after 9/11). It is just a ludicrous statement / rallying ploy that is very insensitive to the people involved with 9/11 and Pearl Harbor (mind you that both incidents led to war). I guess he is just a stupid man that puts football ahead of everything else.

ddthetide 11-21-2007 11:50 AM

did you hear the press conference? or did you just read the POOR reporting of this?
he used the word catastrophic event, then searched for an example. granted they were poor examples.
more nick saban and Bama bashing by the press, get over it.

MaTH716 11-21-2007 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
did you hear the press conference? or did you just read the POOR reporting of this?
he used the word catastrophic event, then searched for an example. granted they were poor examples. more nick saban and Bama bashing by the press, get over it.

DD, yes I did see the confrence. I thought his examples were terrible and I thought that I conveyed that in my post. There must be better examples for him to use than the 2 most deadliest inncidents in U.S. history. Speaking as a person who knew 5 people that died on 9/11 and witnessed the second plane go into the tower, I feel that Mr. Saban trying to say that Alabama football is going to be different after losing to Miss St. and ULM (catastrophic events). I believe that he insinuated that losing those 2 games was a catastrophy. Just that by itself is ridiculous, but then loosley mentioning other catastrophes (9/11 & Pearl Harbor) is insane. He did an extemely poor job trying to get his point across!

IrishofNDMan 11-21-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
did you hear the press conference? or did you just read the POOR reporting of this?
he used the word catastrophic event, then searched for an example. granted they were poor examples.
more nick saban and Bama bashing by the press, get over it.

Saban represents Bama well, as trash.

Cajungator26 11-21-2007 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I have always thought that he was an overated coach and a pompous A-Hole. I didn't think he was a stupid individual. But, To use 9/11 and Pearl Harbor in the same paragraph with losing football games is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. How do you compare the two most deadliest attacks on the country, to losing football games? I know that they are trying to spin it as a coming together as a team thing (like the country came together after 9/11). It is just a ludicrous statement / rallying ploy that is very insensitive to the people involved with 9/11 and Pearl Harbor (mind you that both incidents led to war). I guess he is just a stupid man that puts football ahead of everything else.

Try not to take things too seriously... it was a poor analogy, but I highly doubt that he was attempting to demean 9/11.

Cajungator26 11-21-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
Saban represents Bama well, as trash.

Coming from someone who supports a team coached by the 'trashiest' coach of them all (Weis), this is pretty funny.

Cajungator26 11-21-2007 03:43 PM

I don't care for Saban, but watch this if you get a chance... if you can fast forward to the 18th minute, you will see Saban in a new light. Wow.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...ctid1315702231

Danzig 11-21-2007 05:59 PM

yet another example of the media trying to create a story that really isn't there. alabama lost to ulm, that is a catastrophe for the bama team, and for recruiting. he wasn't likening the event to 9-11, he just said that just like people coming together after a catastrophe like that, his team would move forward after this loss.

ninetoone 11-21-2007 06:26 PM

It was a horrible analogy & he comes across as an arrogant egomaniac, in every minute, including the 18th.

MaTH716 11-21-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
yet another example of the media trying to create a story that really isn't there. alabama lost to ulm, that is a catastrophe for the bama team, and for recruiting. he wasn't likening the event to 9-11, he just said that just like people coming together after a catastrophe like that, his team would move forward after this loss.

I do not think the media needs to come up another story, the last two losses should provide enough material. Not to mention that they have Auburn this week. Like I said, I just believe that he did a very poor job trying to convey his message. There was no reason for him to bring up those events. I also think using the word catastropic in terms of football loses and or seasons is a bit over the top. Come on Nick, this is college football. How many people in the country said on Saturday that, "Wow that is a catastropic loss for Alabama" Get real you egotistical maniac. And if he has to do something to motivate his team for Auburn, he is in really big trouble. If they can't get up for that game then maybe he should call the Dolphins back.

SCUDSBROTHER 11-21-2007 08:13 PM

I think to him(Saban) it was like 9-11,but he was stupid for saying it.

ddthetide 11-21-2007 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
How many people in the country said on Saturday that, "Wow that is a catastrophic loss for Alabama"

math, you are from nj? you and everyone else outside of the SEC don't understand. in the world of the SEC and Alabama losing to msu and ulm in consecutive weeks, IS catastrophic. danzig and Cajun are SEC'ers they understand. it's the SEC football culture. saban's comments were poor but not meant to offend.

MaTH716 11-21-2007 09:17 PM

If they beat Auburn this weekend, is everything in the Crimson Tide nation ok again?

ddthetide 11-21-2007 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
if he has to do something to motivate his team for Auburn, he is in really big trouble. If they can't get up for that game then maybe he should call the Dolphins back.

we've heard rumors all season that saban inherited BIG bunch of BAD attitudes. the coaching staff figured after the ut victory the bad attitudes had been fixed. it is now appearent after the embarrassment of the last 2 weeks the only fix will be a purge the program.
a big number of the bad apples graduate, the rest will have to be run off or wait another graduating class.
by Alabama and saban's standards, efforts like the last 2 weeks are completely UNACCEPTABLE!
do i expect any better this week? no. do you have ANY idea how bad it rips my guts out to type this? or saturday night to sit and watch auburn beat us for a 6th straight time? and know their talent isn't that much better than Bama's.
so yes saban is tring to get this bunch to put up a fight against the barners.

King Glorious 11-22-2007 05:35 AM

Stop being such whiney people. So what if he made the analogy. As pointed out, in Alabama, it's probably very close to accurate. This reminds me of when everyone was in an uproar over Kellen Winslow's comments about being a soldier and going to war. Football is a violent game. It is a battle out there. A player can lose his ability to walk or his life on any given play. It's not for whimps. It's not played with skirts on. It's war out there. Anyone with half a brain should be able to understand where Saban or any other coach or athlete is coming from when they say these things. I remember some years back when a player from the Miami Hurricanes, I believe it was Jerome Brown, showed up in fatigues. He made a comment like "you wanna go to war, I'll take you to war." I guess since we weren't at war at the time, nobody was upset by it. But it was no different. Take off the skirts and quit crying.

MaTH716 11-22-2007 07:49 AM

Article from todays NY Dailynews.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/co...iss/index.html

IrishofNDMan 11-22-2007 11:12 AM

What did people say about Kellen Winslow when he was at Miami and went off saying something along the lines of, "I'm a f-ing soldier". We ripped him apart and said how terrible of a comment that was and how immature he is and blah blah blah.

Nick Saban says something that is much worse than calling yourself a soldier, and you want to defend him?

Coaches should be treated and punished the same as the players, it's just to bad it doesn't happen.

Saban is classless, and will turn his back on anyone if he has a better offer on the table.

Cajungator26 11-22-2007 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
Saban is classless, and will turn his back on anyone if he has a better offer on the table.

Agreed, but I still don't think he meant to insult anyone. People are reading too much into what he said... JMO.

Cannon Shell 11-22-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Saban is classless, and will turn his back on anyone if he has a better offer on the table.

Hopefully that will come from Notre Dame

31lengths 11-22-2007 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
It was a horrible analogy & he comes across as an arrogant egomaniac, in every minute, including the 18th.


Someone like that should be able to come up with a better analogy.

tiznowthegreat 11-23-2007 05:40 PM

I doubt that he meant to offend anybody - but the bottom line is he did. It probably was taken the wrong way and he probably did not mean it the way people took it. But you really have to question somebody's mental stability, intelligence, and IQ to say something like that. He has dealt with the media for 20+ years. Did he not think that something like that would not raise all kinds of trouble? Bottom line is that he is truly stupid for saying something like that in public, and I don't see how anybody could argue that. What an idiot

horseofcourse 11-24-2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
I remember some years back when a player from the Miami Hurricanes, I believe it was Jerome Brown, showed up in fatigues. He made a comment like "you wanna go to war, I'll take you to war." I guess since we weren't at war at the time, nobody was upset by it.

Ah yes, I remember it well...I was there!!, It was actually their whole team. The great fatigues game. But actually the Penn State Defense must have been upset by it...they intercepted the great "hurricane" Heisman Vinny 5 times and won the national championship sticking a fork into the great Miami mystique! That was the only one of 5 undefeated Paterno teams thought proper enough by pollsters to actually be given a national title.

AS far as Saban goes, he needs to be more proper in his tragedy comparisons. He coaches the Crimson "Tide", so a more apt tragedy comparison for his loss to La Monroe would be the Indian Ocean earthquake/tsunami in the Indian Ocean in December of 2004 which was kind of a "tidal" type scenario in Indonesia etc. He just needs to be a little quicker on the draw is all.

MaTH716 11-25-2007 11:00 AM

Maybe Nick Saban can refer to the Titanic during his next press conference.

ddthetide 11-25-2007 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Maybe Nick Saban can refer to the Titanic during his next press conference.

for cryin out loud ! LET IT GO ! the announcers last night said it was blown WAY out of proportion.

MaTH716 11-25-2007 01:29 PM

That was a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like as in losing 4 in a row and the ship is sinking!

Danzig 11-25-2007 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
That was a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like as in losing 4 in a row and the ship is sinking!


and not enough life rafts to go around. of course every good capt goes down with his ship. i don't think ol nicky is a good capt.

ddthetide 11-26-2007 08:27 PM

we heard rumors of this throughout the year but Alabama Football is worse off than we thought. CNS has his hands full.

this is from the Mobile Press Register,

--SLOW FINISH: Alabama receiver DJ Hall, who served a half-game suspension during the loss to ULM, actually pinned a season-ending, four-game losing streak on players not listening to Saban.
"Everything he preaches is the right thing. It's just sometimes we didn't go about it that way, and it showed," Hall said. "That's nobody's fault but ours. All we had to do was buy into what Coach was saying. We realize it now, but obviously, it's too late."


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