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Originally Posted by GBBob

OK..you think MLB is capable of judging themselves? If not...as I think we all know, who does?

We judge them. We are the customers. If we stop buying the product, they change or go away. If we think the games are not on the level, we stop watching. If Microsoft had a bunch of employees go into rehab would there be Congressional intervention? When they thought that they were a monopoly that was leading to issues for the consumer fine. Why all the interest in sports? Because they are an easy target? How is the consumer injured when baseball players take HGH or lie about it?

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Deposition under oath.
If anyone wants to push this.

Clemens wouldnt talk to Mitchell. So it is ok for Congress to do the dirty work for Mitchell? That is a little scary. Where are all the people that are up in arms over the patriot act or other govt intrusions? Since when does Congress use its powers as the enforcement agent of non govt affairs?

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Originally Posted by GBBob

OK..A lot of stuff there Chuck..

And I can't do that neat cut and paste like you can to address certain parts of your e-mail..damn..but.

If it doesn't make a difference ( that much), then remove the exemption...but...I think that wouldn't go over so well.

Roger= Barry=Mark= Any MLB player..Forget the name..they are testifying based on who they work for,

My issue isn't with Roger, et al, it's with MLB as a company. It's pretty obvious from horse racing that when someone is implicated, the sport in general is implicated. Maybe it's sad, but that's what I want to see happen to baseball.

Like I said if they remove the excepmtion then owners will have a much easier time moving teams. Of course MLB wants to keep it, but it isnt this get out of jail free card that it is made out to be.

If you dont think baseball has been implicated by this what do you need? Executions? If we still watch/go to the games, buy the merchandise, etc then aren't we a big part of the problem? Do you think this will negatively effect attendance? I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If we still watch/go to the games, buy the merchandise, etc then aren't we a big part of the problem? Do you think this will negatively effect attendance? I doubt it.

not to me but this is what really gets my goat. (cubs). Baseball was in the dumper after the strike and guys juiced up on HGH/ Steroids started a homerun derby and got everyone excited about baseball again.

Now baseball is feigning ignorance

I also think Congress is grasping at straws. They refuse to do what the people want and were hoping this would somehow distract us.

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

This is a totally divided nation.Congress is doing exactly what people want(to muzzle Geedubbya enough so he can't totally destroy the country.)Now,if you get rid of Nascartonia(Texas,OK.,LOUIS.,ARK.,MISS.,BAMA,TENN. ,GEORGIA,both Carolinas,the Florida Panhandle etc.,) then the Congress might be able to accomplish something.Don't expect to get much done with a conservative ideologue president,and a slim Democratic Majority in the House and the Senate.Just isn't going to happen.For the most part, this country will tread water until we divide it up into 2 parts.Those would be Nascartonia and America(Sans Hee-Haw.)