Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ

He understands making deposits at the bank I bet.

Originally Posted by CSC

Are you absolutely 100% sure Frankel's horse wasn't going to lose? If so we were not watching the same race.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well, I can't explain to a trainer how boring this is for fans, because trainers get 10% of the 1st place money. It's not boring to you guys. It makes for a pretty useless race for us. One guy said pass the race. I would say pass the race. Joey tried to beat the Frankel, and lost. Your attitude is typical of trainers. They don't care if racing is that competitive. Short uncompetitive fields are in your best interest. Large competitive fields are in our best interest. Frankel's been jamming this chalk down people's throats in these bully situations forever. He is no friend of those wanting good competitive racing(again I don't expect you to care if the racing is very competitive.) Trainers n' fans have highly differing self interests.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is not your best work. First of all Trainers are trying to win, it isnt our job to make races competitive just as it isnt the head coaches job to make a game that is a blow out closer so it will be more interesting for the fans. Secondly these races are the BEST races to bet as an over-hyped horse with a consistently over bet trainer in a tough situation is a great bet against especially because you are getting greater value on the other runners. Frankel probably wins 30% of the time in these situations and is probably over bet 80% of the time. You do the math.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well, I can't explain to a trainer how boring this is for fans, because trainers get 10% of the 1st place money. It's not boring to you guys. It makes for a pretty useless race for us. One guy said pass the race. I would say pass the race. Joey tried to beat the Frankel, and lost. Your attitude is typical of trainers. They don't care if racing is that competitive. Short uncompetitive fields are in your best interest. Large competitive fields are in our best interest. Frankel's been jamming this chalk down people's throats in these bully situations forever. He is no friend of those wanting good competitive racing(again I don't expect you to care if the racing is very competitive.) Trainers n' fans have highly differing self interests.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't understand why people here keep clamoring for more disqualifications.

Originally Posted by Linny

The filly damn near lost, it was a pretty contentious stretch run, the better horse won. She's a G1 winning filly in a NW2x for a trainer who's about 30% off the layoff. Trying to beat her makes sense if you are more afraid of being accused of being a chalk eating weasel than of tearing up tickets.

Originally Posted by Linny

If you think she's a vulnerable fave, bet against but when she beats you it's moronic to scream about how bad she was.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Once again, she wasn't the fastest horse in the race on grass, and she is what's supposed to be a dirt filly being thrown onto turf. She was a terrible bet at 4-5.

This blanket "She's a Grade 1 winning filly" defense is totally lazy and worthless. It puts horses like this on the same plateau as true Grade 1 caliber horses. This filly beat freaking Grace and Power on Cushion Track.. If you think that automatically makes her into a different class of horse, then you're probably the same idiot who bet her the two times before yesterday.

Your "arguments" are exactly why the horse was bet down to those indefensibly low odds. People like you ignore form and just assume every graded stakes horse from a good layoff trainer is automatically a layover. It's a foolish way to bet, but I get the impression that you don't bet much, so I don't know why I'm surprised that this is your logic.



Yeah, because she was so damn impressive today. I forgot that if a horrible 4-5 favorite wins by a half-length after zig-zagging throughout the stretch, the horse retroactively becomes a good horse. Well done.

Originally Posted by hrfan

anyone know what hush puppy means ?

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Seriously, good luck buying into hype horses like Country Star. I'll continue to bet against them.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

He looks for incredibly soft spots more than most. Could find a baby's soft spot in 1.5 seconds. They all do it, but this guy lives for it. It's crappy for the game. Bad race. Delay...Frankel Delay....A competitive race will follow after this one. We appreciate your understanding, and interesting betting races will resume shortly.

Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ

That is kind of his job. Put anything in the right company and it will win.

He sure didn't find an easy spot for Mast Track last out at 12-1 did he? Did you happen to get any of that one?

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It was impossible to tell from the supposed head-on whether or not a foul actually occured.

The stewards made the right call. I don't understand why people here keep clamoring for more disqualifications.

Originally Posted by CSC

I have a different opinon, my problem with the non DQ yesterday stems from the lack of consistency with calls we have seen this summer, I've seen far less done at Delmar that resulted in a DQ for instance, as a horseplayer we are left scratching our heads? Still I thought the head on replay showed Country Star clearly veering into the path of Marie Rossa when she started to gain on her, to me this was blocking the path of another horse that wasn't beaten by much in the end anyway. For good measure she veered out again near the finish line, take these 2 incidents out and margin at the wire would have been alot closer than the 1/2 length difference. I understand keeping a horse up if they are clearly the best in the field but in this case. I think Marie Rossa deserved a better fate as she was running her race and all of the trouble was the result of Frankel's horse.