He needs to pretend like its Jan. and he is at Gulfstream. Maybe he is trying to hard because it is Saratoga?

I do agree that Lep is better and more consistent on the turf than Lezcano...and I'm a huge fan of Lezcano. The frog is just one of those jocks I can never catch. Anytime I bet a horse he is on, it seems like I get one of those rides where he is just a touch too cute trying to time getting up at the wire...only to lose by a head. He used to drive me insane.

To get a sense of how 'good' Leparoux (and Maker) is, one need only watch his ride on Headache, on 7/02. Reminds me of the way a farmer would ride his (lazy) mule. And for Lezcano, I just don't get what people see in his riding. He's decidedly MEDIOCRE. He rides well when he falls into a trip; nothing more, nothing less.

I mean, it's really time these guys started taking their jobs more seriously and put in some significant time watching races.

Same with me Kev.........when I leave him off he wins and when I bet him I usuallyend up muttering derogatory french remarks.

He falls into an awful lot of trips.

He made up for the Headache ride with a win in a 100k stake on him on Saturday.

If Leparoux has a flaw it's that he's overly patient at times. Have you watched the Regret again? It's a gem from Albarado, who I know is one of your favorites.

NT

This from the same guy that says Lezcano is decidely MEDIOCRE:wf

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37110

I would appreciate a 1000 word essay from Drugs on the strength of German racing.

Im sure hes working on it now.

Well, he didn't make it up to me, as I'm not following ELP (I assume that's where he ran) and I don't keep a bet back list.

I haven't watched the Regret; and I won't. It's a particular 'type' of race that never yields predictable betback results. (It's similar to the way that all the cyclists that finish with the peloton get the same final time for the race.) I do know, however, that the winner is not a horse I want back. From the looks of the chart, there's really nothing that Albarado could have done (in the conventional sense that almost all jocks ride) to win that race --- he was going to get gobbled up by the flow inevitably.

you can get a good feel of the race just from the chart, better than watching? i guess based on what the chartcaller put that the winner was simply the beneficiary of a very good trip? interesting.

I wouldn't throw out the Canadian horse. House of Grace is a terrible bet at her M/L or under. The race appears to set up for Bay to Bay regardless.

How very True the Canadian Fillies in Here are very Live, and the price will be right...

Does she always have to draw the far outside post?

The inner is tricky for the deep, deep closers. They always seem to just run out of time, one or two more jumps. I'm thinking stalker, closer to the pace type......Perfect Shirl, Johnny V riding for Attfield, not Pletcher. Price should be right. Just a thought.

I know you watch jocks very closely. I'd be interested in seeing your current top 5 riders on the turf.

I could not resist.

Ramon
Julian
Javier
Alan
Kent


Honestly, I dont care what order, maybe Ramon has the edge, but its really not by much. The first 4 of late might have seperated from Kent latley, but he is still capable.

Lake George
 

The German Fiily can "fly" a true MILER. The only question is if she can carry her speed a 1 1/6

I laughed.:D:D

what about the other canadian, perfect shirl?

That's who I am playing. Her dam has produced some real monsters and Attfield has a lot of strong ROI angles in this spot. Hard to gather much from her turf race because she may not have beaten much, but she did it the right way.

What? That's the horse I'm talking about.

wow, I thought Monday's card was bad. Then I looked at Wednesday. This is not the Saratoga I grew up with.

Realistically now, and I'm not certain how old you are, but is the racing anywhere as good as what you grew up with?

NT

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True, but Saratoga was special. And I've been going there since I was 6. I remember the first race I ever bet on. Got 3rd.

WPS on Khancord Kid 25-1 >

That's almost as good as Sterlings redboard a few weeks ago where he was put up via dq for a big score, way back in like 73.

Not a redboard. I bet across. I lost on the race.:D

lol ooops thought you liked bay to bay!

Hey man, if you did not post your picks here on DT before you bet, you have no right to brag about it.

What do you think would happen if we all started posting about our first bets as six year olds?

The resulting turf war would dwarf the Z vs RA battles.

Bay to Bay isn't Canadian anymore silly, but I think she's the horse to beat. I'll probably use Perfect Shirl, Dynazaper and Crescenda in the pick fours as well though. Very good betting race.

ah, got it, thanks!

Damn, just when I thought no one was going to mention that horse. Agree about the >25-1 part.

If the turf is firm I am taking a shot on 7-Go Ask Alex

5 Perfect Shirl Velazquez J R Attfield Roger L 116 L 15-1

I like this one in the Feature care...:$:

Could someone be kind enough to post the results? Thanks! :)

5 - Perfect Shirl
10 - Exclusive Love
6 - No Explaining
3 - Khancord Kid

Superfecta should be mammoth.

Perfect Shirl :)

5-10-6-3

Thanks!

Nice job, I thought you said you really liked her.

5 .....$20.60 $12.20 $8.00
10..............$43.00 $17.80
6 ..........................$9.00

$1.00 Exacta 5-10 $506.00
$1.00 Trifecta 5-10-6 $3051.50
$0.10 Superfecta 5-10-6-3 $15150.70