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Indian Charlie 10-04-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
And we forgot.....

I Want Revenge!

OMG, I can't believe I forgot that one.

There are just so many in this crop.

CSC 10-04-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Meaning what she wont try poly?
Start her back in the Sabin at 8 against her own or the GP handicap.. Then find another spot till the Met Mile. Then the Phipps,Surburan,Go for Wand, Whitney, Woodward, JCGC, Classic.. Curlin Feb 1 2011.

But she's won on poly already, so that sort of debunks that theory, someone should bring that up with Jess if he plans on using that same reason next year.

NTamm1215 10-04-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
But she's won on poly already, so that sort of debunks that theory, someone should bring that up with Jess if he plans on using that same reason next year.

What Polytrack race will even be worth thinking about for her next year with the exception of the $10 million Dubai World Cup?

NT

CSC 10-04-2009 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Here's the Best Beyer list for 3 year olds (M/F) this year...

Blue = <1m

Rachel Alexandra (f) MTH 02 Aug 1 1/8M 116
This Ones for Phil GP 24 Jan 6F 115
I Want Revenge AQU 07 Mar 1 1/16M 113
Notonthesamepage GP 03 Jan 6F 113
Quality Road GP 28 Feb 1M 113
Warrior's Reward CD 01 May 7F 113
Munnings BEL 05 Jul 7F 111

Quality Road GP 28 Mar 1 1/8M 111
Rachel Alexandra (f) BEL 27 Jun 1 1/8M 111
Summer Bird BEL 03 Oct 1 1/4M 111
Cash Refund CD 25 Apr 6F 110
Munnings BEL 06 Jun 7F 110

Quality Road BEL 03 Oct 1 1/4M 110
Quality Road SAR 03 Aug 6 1/2F 110
Summer Bird SAR 29 Aug 1 1/4M 110
Zensational DMR 08 Aug 6F 110
Just Ben BEL 06 Jun 7F 109
Light Green (f) BEL 15 May 6F 109

Rachel Alexandra (f) SAR 05 Sep 1 1/8M 109
You Luckie Mann GP 24 Jan 6F 109
Big Drama GP 28 Mar 7F 108
Dunkirk GP 28 Mar 1 1/8M 108
Hollywood Hit WO 30 Sep 6F 108
Munnings CD 01 May 7F 108

Rachel Alexandra (f) CD 01 May 1 1/8M 108

Let's not forget the best 3 yr old colt not named Summer Bird, The Pamplemousse. Watch out for him next year!

CSC 10-04-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
What Polytrack race will even be worth thinking about for her next year with the exception of the $10 million Dubai World Cup?

NT

The Pacific Classic for one. The Big Cap?

NTamm1215 10-04-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
The Pacific Classic for one? The Big Cap?

Ok, sure, I bet those are definitely on his agenda for next year.

NT

CSC 10-04-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Ok, sure, I bet those are definitely on his agenda for next year.

NT

I think we can look forward to a challenging 4 - 5 race campaign including the likes of the Donn, The Foster, The Woodward and the BC Classic. You can bet the races he picks for her will be on tracks tailored to her strengths.

freddymo 10-04-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
I think we can look forward to a challenging 4 - 5 race campaign including the likes of the Donn, The Foster, The Woodward and the BC Classic. You can bet the races he picks for her will be on tracks tailored to her strengths.

If she goes in the Donn and is still around for the Woodward and Classic it would be hardly a soft campaign

cmorioles 10-04-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
I think we can look forward to a challenging 4 - 5 race campaign including the likes of the Donn, The Foster, The Woodward and the BC Classic. You can bet the races he picks for her will be on tracks tailored to her strengths.

That is some pretty funny stuff there. Good job.

What person doesn't try to pick spots for their horse where they have the best chance to run well?

Cannon Shell 10-04-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
That is some pretty funny stuff there. Good job.

What person doesn't try to pick spots for their horse where they have the best chance to run well?

Maybe a guy who wants to make some sort of history? Being that she is a filly there are a whole lot more options for her to avoid losing. Personally I think he will just try to keep her undefeated all year which is fine but if he doesn't take a few chances, especially going 1 1/4 then her 4 yo season will be a disappointment. I'm guessing a tune up at FG, the filly race on Derby undercard, S Foster, Whitney, Beldame, Classic.

CSC 10-04-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
That is some pretty funny stuff there. Good job.

What person doesn't try to pick spots for their horse where they have the best chance to run well?

You mean the Frankel micromanagement style or the Mike Dickinson OCD method?

Yeah that was a joke...:)

NTamm1215 10-04-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Personally I think he will just try to keep her undefeated all year which is fine but if he doesn't take a few chances, especially going 1 1/4 then her 4 yo season will be a disappointment

Or you mean she'll just be Zenyatta.

NT

Cannon Shell 10-04-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Or you mean she'll just be Zenyatta.

NT

Conventional dirt version. I love when people say 'conventional' dirt. It just sounds funny

freddymo 10-04-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Maybe a guy who wants to make some sort of history? Being that she is a filly there are a whole lot more options for her to avoid losing. Personally I think he will just try to keep her undefeated all year which is fine but if he doesn't take a few chances, especially going 1 1/4 then her 4 yo season will be a disappointment. I'm guessing a tune up at FG, the filly race on Derby undercard, S Foster, Whitney, Beldame, Classic.

8 weeks off till the Whitney?

CSC 10-04-2009 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Maybe a guy who wants to make some sort of history? Being that she is a filly there are a whole lot more options for her to avoid losing. Personally I think he will just try to keep her undefeated all year which is fine but if he doesn't take a few chances, especially going 1 1/4 then her 4 yo season will be a disappointment. I'm guessing a tune up at FG, the filly race on Derby undercard, S Foster, Whitney, Beldame, Classic.

He wants to make history only if it's on his terms, what kind of courage or challenge is that really?

brianwspencer 10-04-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
He wants to make history only if it's on his terms, what kind of courage or challenge is that really?

As opposed to on your terms.

I see the conflict now.

CSC 10-04-2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
As opposed to on your terms.

I see the conflict now.

Hey Brian, check out the vid I posted the link to in the eso section here. Pay attention to the last part. That's exactly what I would say to JJ if I had a chance to.

brianwspencer 10-04-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Hey Brian, check out the vid I posted the link to in the eso section here. Pay attention to the last part. That's exactly what I would say to JJ if I had a chance to.

3 minutes is too long, can you just sum it up for me?

freddymo 10-04-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
As opposed to on your terms.

I see the conflict now.

Hi I bought this filly for X million and now I should race her where she is less likely to succeed because if she was able to succeed it would be more impressive then if she succeeds on a G1 level against males at several distances and tracks.. Makes perfect sense to me

Cannon Shell 10-04-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
8 weeks off till the Whitney?

We need to keep her fresh. or someone will create some kind of a race for her.


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