NBA Playoffs

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Meaning they are both going to give about the same contribution overall if in different ways. Both are good defenders. Both are relied upon in their respective offenses as spot up shooters. Both will give you around 10 points per game. Delonte is better off the dribble and in the half court, Ariza fills the lane on the break much better.

Look at stats for the entire playoffs. Virtually the same and i think houston and utah play better defense than detroit and atlanta at this point.

Utah plays zero defense. I would not contend they play better defense than Atlanta. That is just silly claiming Utah plays better defense than Atlanta.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Utah plays zero defense. I would not contend they play better defense than Atlanta.

detroit and atlanta are 11th and 12th in defensive efficiency respectively. Utah was 14th...houston was 7th.

edit* remember also that Utah's best interior defender was out for a good part of the year. At wing, brewer and kirilenko would be the matchup and both are good defenders.

[horseofcourse]

Don't forget also...West broke his wrist and his offensive stats went down steadily upon his return working back into the rotation and offensive flow. This did happen.

[horseofcourse]

It's pretty much arguing about nothing. I don't really care. It's depressing enough regardless of whom is better between Ariza and West. I honestly don't give a rat's ass who is better. The Cavs are in massive trouble. They got the poor shooting effort from the Magic I felt they needed to steal one in Orlando...they didn't take advantage. It's depressing. This side argument is meaningless.

[King Glorious]

This thread has taken a bad turn. Really, a Delonte West vs. Trevor Ariza debate? Really?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

This thread has taken a bad turn. Really, a Delonte West vs. Trevor Ariza debate? Really?

exactly. thats what i said a while ago. they are about the same player. no?

[King Glorious]

Very much so. Just like about 100 other guys.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Don't forget also...West broke his wrist and his offensive stats went down steadily upon his return working back into the rotation and offensive flow. This did happen.

Okay, and Phil Jackson experimented with a million different rotations to begin the season and Ariza's role wasnt defined until the second half of the year.

Im not talking about all of that though. I am talking about what they are...now...in these playoffs.

West has been a decent offensive role player that has played good defense. Ariza has done basically the same thing.

How is this debatable? Im not saying Ariza is better. Im just saying in terms of "value" they are about the same player.