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Originally Posted by eurobounce
How can you think differently. Lets recap here. Now we are only comparing on the track. We arent comparing times, sheet numbers, etc etc.
Ghostzapper
4 Grade I wins (Classic, Vosburgh, Woodward, Metropolitan) He has 9 wins from 11 starts for earnings of $3.4mm. Horse of the year in 2004
Invasor
4 Grade I wins ( Classic, Whitney, Suburban, Pimlico Special) To me these are more prestigous races than what Zapper won. Also, Invasor has 9 wins from 10 starts with earnings of $3.6mm.
Invasor will be crowned HOY of the year for the 2nd time.
So Invasor has won more money and has a better win % and has won more prestigious Grade I races. In addition, he is still racing. Now looking at these two it is pretty even. But, the edge goes to Invasor based "on the track."
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I'm tired but I have to disagree with this. I like Invasor, I really do, but your comparisons are not terrific. First, saying Invasor won more prestigious races is sketchy at best. They both won the Classic, OK, the Whitney and Woodward are comparable names, the Met is bigger than the Suburban and the Vosburgh is bigger than the Pimlico Special. Also, the varying distances of these Grade 1s is a major feather in Ghostzapper's cap. Now, let's compare the competition. Woodward-Whitney. Ghostzapper defeated the following year's HOY and Classic winner Saint Liam by a head after being carried out more than ten paths in the stretch with the rest of the field WAY back. Invasor ran a terrific race in the Whitney, not getting a perfect trip ( stumbling early and moving too soon into a hot pace ) and held off Sun King by a head. Now, I love Sun King, I dream of him, he is my personal God of racing, but he aint no Saint Liam....and it pains me deeply to say that, write that and think that. Plus, it was a few lengths back to West Virginia and some Mark Hennig bum that routinely runs last in every stake race he is misplaced in.
I'm tired...can I go to bed and finish this tomorrow....or do you just want to admit you were a little hasty in this one?
By the way, Ghostzapper's speed figures were almost universally superior.
I like Invasor a lot...I really do. Ghostzapper would have chuckled at him....if he ever even noticed him.
By the way, have you recently watched a replay of Ghostzapper's Vosburgh? If not, please do, as I promise you that it is most enjoyable. Honestly, it may be one of the five most scintilating performances of any of our lifetimes. It was a thing of beauty. He aint even in the picture when the field turns for home...and he wins by almost seven.
Now I'm getting weepy.