Originally Posted by hi_im_god

can we please just drop the completely false argument that team wins trump individual skills in this discussion?

if all that matters is wins then tebow at 4-1 is the favorite for rookie of the year over a 2-7 fraud like cam newton.

and they both trail randall cobb who is apparently leading green bay to a so far undefeated season.

you can argue that his skill set is different from that of the typical nfl quarterback. you can argue that he brings intangible assets like leadership or a "will to win".

but gloating over a win where your offense scored 10 points the entire game (with 3 of those coming on a 15 yard drive) is drooling on the floor idiotic when the discussion is qb skills.