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Originally Posted by Riot

I thought you were talking specifically about filibuster rules, not the general entire political scene. Yes, the political scene is partisan.



It's not my perception, it is factual, by the actual numbers - read the numbers chart and senate vote chart on it I posted previously.

And btw, the Dems tried to change it previously (one Dem) when they had majority. Nobody was interested (not even the other Dems)

Today is a weird political day. George Will is defending Obama's national security and terrorism policy against Liz Cheney, Joe Lieberman is defending Obama's financial policy against McCain's Obama attack ads, and Michael Steele has not yet been fired



??? Nobody says they should rule absolutely. Yes, we have a multi-party system, and the minority party absolutely has a voice. What they don't have is the majority vote, what it takes to pass legislation. And they are acting like azzholes by coming right out and saying they are not only using filibuster to delay votes and require issues that already have more than enough votes to pass to require 60, not the simple majority required by the Constitution, on major legislation, but they will use it on every single thing, simply to try and "derail Obama's agenda". And they have. (again, refer to the actual numbers)

And that's costing us, the taxpayers, a whole lot of money for alot of whiney people who are unhappy they are no longer reflective of what the electoral majority wants.

nobody says that? i wish i had a nickel for every time i read that the dems won and are in charge, so suck it up.
as for using filibuster tactics costing us money, how so? do congressional salaries rise because they are engaging in debate? what's so wrong about forcing a debate before a bill is passed? both parties have the right, and both use it.. so what. i doubt that filibustering would ever keep a good bill from getting a vote. as for the health care bill, with it's thousands of pages that most haven't read, i think filibuster would be important. sorry, you'll fail in getting me to agree that this tactic should be removed. can it be abused? absolutely. there may come a time when the party now in power would like to have use of this tactic.