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Old 09-19-2006, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Rupert-

You are the one that are saying these things, not me. Why is everything so black and white with the myopic masses? Who brought up gangmembers? What are you even talking about?

Of course there is a difference between the US and Al Qadea. Who ever said there wasnt? But if you are talking about whether or not US intelligence would kill a prisoner to glean information, then anyone that has any common sense and has any knowledge of the intelligence community would know that this has gone on for years. Thats all im saying. And its not just the US, its every country in the world.

I think it funny when people buy into this whole "good vs. evil" thing. It was labeled as such in the cold war and its labeled as such with any country that dares defy the US. Does it make one less patriotic to question the motives of some of the people that run our government? Are they holy prophets or something? Who is to say that Bush/cheney arent evil, selfish men? Who is to say that they dont truly believe that what they are doing is right? As a citizen of this country, i have every right to question it one way or the other.

I choose to keep an open mind one way or the other. The US has done plenty of great things for this world but there have been some bad things as well. I dont see things as black and white, as good vs. evil. Our "good" side does bad things too. Its the way of the world Rupert.
OH, so you keep an open mind as to who you support here?
Torture them, mutilate them. whatever. Doesn't bother me one bit, make me feel better if we did.
If we get info from just one of em that saves the lives of the people I support, the citizens of the USA, then its well worth it.
You seem to be forgetting something here, or realize it yet don't support the USA.
We didn't start this war in any way shape or form.
A bunch of murderous cowards attacked and killed 5000 innocent US Citizens on our soil.
Its no different than what the Japanese did at Pearl Harbor and the only solution, like with the Japanese, is to bring them to their knees and then allow them to rebuild as a non threat to the world.
Sorry, but any people who worship a God who says to murder innocent people deserve a lot more than waterboarding.
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