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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Thinking things through is one thing. I support that, but setting up that straw man in response to my post was of course necessary. Shoving it through because you have the votes and not thinking about it are two different things...but of course you knew that already.. Anything the Dems want, they can basically pass, but instead they're busy capitulating at every turn because they're pathetic and afraid of a bunch of loudmouths.
But all this stupid **** about wanting Republican votes for things and wanting to work together, when Republicans have indicated they have no interest at all in working with him on anything (unless working with him means getting everything they want, exactly how they want it, which defeats the point of them losing the last election in the first place) is going to ensure that he fails...just like he's doing now. At this rate, he's certainly not going to get voted out of office based on his policies, since he's not enacting any of them because he's too busy caving on EVERYthing they want. He'll get voted out because he did NOTHING in four years. And that will be his fault.
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one of the consequences of being a party that's inclusive is you have a lot of internal fights. ben nelson isn't exactly ted kennedy.
the idea that dem's can just shove whatever they want down republican throats is actually more a "after an election where we just got our asses handed to us, what do we do now?" republican idea than a democratic one.
in the long run it isn't going to matter much. they'll get older and whiter and the country will get younger and browner.
i don't get the end game republican's think they have but i'm not too worried about the long term.