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Originally Posted by brockguy
There's a lot hidden in that statement Chuck.. He never raced outside Germany (where he won the Derby) and Italy (where he beat a Dubai World Cup winner!) until September of his 4yo career. After being off for a nearly a year, He was 3rd behind Pride (multple G1 filly) and Alkaased (a Japan Cup winner) in his prep for the Arc, then was 4th in the Arc behind mutiple G1 winners Hurricane Run, Westerner and Bago.
Excluding Johars BC win, you could say Shirocco's 4th in that Arc was better than anything Johar accomplished..
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That may be true but Johar did DH with a very very good horse in High Chaparel which surely is a better effort than anything Shirocco ever produced. The fact was Johar was a horse who improved almost from day 1, had a compromised 4 year old year and no record after the BC due to injury. While his body of work may not be as complete as some of the others his best race was pretty damn good. Certainly he wasnt a cinch to continue to improve but chances are that we never did see his best. Plus Shirracco beat Ace in his BC. Hank could give Ace a run for his money.