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Old 05-13-2009, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I agree with you about the courage part. Where is the outrage at Obama? A guy who flip-flops on this issue most likely simply to increase his chances of getting elected. People are coming unglued about this girl and yet give the pres a pass. no consistency or courage there for sure.

I do wonder though, do you also put Obama in the category of morons who oppose it? like you did with miss Cali and Limbaugh? if not, what makes the other two (limbaugh and miss cali) morons? what are their common traits, other than opposition to gay marriage that, make them morons?
Limbaugh is a moron for a whole host of reasons that have nothing to do with gay marriage. I probably listen to the guy about twice a week (it is a long drive out to DeKalb) because I actually enjoy listening to someone I disagree with more than I enjoy listening to liberal talk radio. The fact that he is an absolute sexist and embraces jingoistic foreign policy stances are just two of the things that make him a moron in my book.

The thing that infuriates me about Obama on this issue (along with many other "liberal" Democrats) is that I think they are probably just being dishonest. Where Limbaugh and Miss Cali actually do favor laws that embrace blatant discrimination, Obama probably doesn't. He (again, along with many others) goes along with it because he feels it would be too risky politically not to do that. That sucks. I volunteered for the guy's campaign. I donated money to his campaign. But on this issue I absolutely think he takes the cowardly way out.

The same holds true for DADT. The administration is trying to find a way for the military to tell them it doesn't work, so that they can get political cover for changing the policy. Here's an idea, why don't they say: "We think this is wrong. We are changing it." Have some guts.
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