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Old 09-04-2006, 01:11 AM
Rupert Pupkin Rupert Pupkin is offline
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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Dala,
I was questioned as to my posting from common dreams. A quick search came up with the Toledo Blade.
There are plenty of views that oppose the policies of the current administration. Take your pick.
Seems to me that those that support current objectives in Iraq are now in the minority, and that no matter what Rummy calls them or which 1930's Europeans he paints them as, the reality of the disaster that the Repub neo-cons have brought upon our country can not be denied.
I'm just one of many messengers, and I didn't make the message, nor the mess.
DTS
That is not true. Polls show that majority of Americans feel it would be a mistake to bail out of Iraq right now.

The main problem I have with your view is what you just said in this post: "The disaster that the Rupeb neo-cons have brought on our country." Let's say that you are right that going into Iraq was a huge mistake. If it was a mistake, which it looks like it was as of right now, there is plenty of blame to go around. There was bi-partisan support to go into Iraq. I don't understand why you want to villify Bush. It seems so juvenille to me when I hear these commnets from people who have such hatred for Bush. I wouldn't have a problem if someone simply said that they didn't think Bush was doing a good job and that his Administration has made a lot of mistakes. That would be fine with me. I think there are plenty of things that Bush could be crticized for. But when I listen to many people such as yourself that have such hatred for him, it just seems like a personal thing that is completely out of whack.

I honestly think there is a psychological component to the hatred. I just think it's a way for some people to blow off steam. They like to have a person who they can blame for everything. Instead of seeing geopolitics in a complex way, it's much easier to just say that all the problmes are because of this one terrible person. It's similar to fans of sporting teams who often times get carried away and actually hate the guys on the other team. It's silly. The truth of the matter is that the Republicans and Democrats in office are pretty much the same. There is very little difference. It's silly to hate the guts of any of these people. The views of Joe Biden and George Bush are not much different. When they give speeches, they try to accentuate the differences. They will try to criticize each other because that is what politicians do. They try to downplay their opponents accomplishments and they try to accentuate their failures. They don't even mean half the stuff they say. A lot of it is just for the cameras. Most of these guys are actually very friendly with each other. This whole thing is a case of the fans being more fired up than the players. Through their rhetoric, the players(politicians) do a good job of getting the fans(voters) fired up. The joke is on the fans because these politicians are all multi-millionaires and are actually good friends with each other. It's actually a little like pro wrestling.

One thing really funny is that if a Democrat was in office right now and had done all the things that Bush has done, most Republicans would be screaming about what a terrible job he was doing. Most Democrats would be defending him. These guys at commondreams.com would not have any problem with the job Bush was doing if he was a Democrat. The whole thing is silly. If you guys honestly think that commondreams.com would be bashing the Bush administration if Bush was a democrat, you are sadly mistaken. It's all about politics. That's all it is. I'm not saying that the Bush administration has not made mistakes. All I'm saying is that the criticisms lodged by the extreme partisans are more about politics than policy. These extreme partisans would have no problem with the policy if their man was in office with the exact same policy.

Last edited by Rupert Pupkin : 09-04-2006 at 01:30 AM.
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