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Old 03-01-2009, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Should I start listing all the races where I have one of two in an exacta? That's not a daily occurrence.
I loaded up on CCM last out, btw.

Must we discuss trips again?

If you're referring to the Kentucky Jockey Club, you might want to review what (actually) happened in that race. BTW, didn't he hold off your horse, CCM, in that one? You know, the last mover.

How about the Holy Bull; did he get a perfect trip there as well?

Not saying this horse is special but he's certainly going to run better AROUND 2 TURNS, on a FAIR track, than anything coming out of the FOY. Last I looked, you need some middle moves to completely collapse a race.
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How was CCM the last mover in the KJC? Beethoven cruised right up to him at the quarter pole and I suppose the very slight (and largely inconsequential) bump between the two of them affected his stride. From there in you had a horse who just sat back behind the hot pace and never left the inside slugging it out with a horse who had done all of the running after going wide around the first turn to try to get to the lead. The fact that CCM even battled with him at all was huge.

I didn't say anything about Beethoven getting a perfect trip in the Holy Bull. I think the Holy Bull was a pretty horrendous horse race all in all, and I'm not interested in any horse who raced in it. Sure, he was outside on a track that favored speed, but wouldn't that make you want West Side Bernie if you had to have anyone?

I'm also very realistic about Capt. Candyman Can. I've liked the horse since Saratoga and made a few bucks on him in the Hutcheson. He is going to be a nice sprinter, that's it in my opinion.

You're certainly right that Beethoven is better at two turns. He'll definitely get 10 furlongs as well, it's just going to take him way too long.

NT
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