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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
KYRIM's a fan of the belief that War Pass didn't get a big figure because he "wasn't all out" - while Commentator got his 119 Beyer under identical circumstances at the same distance and track and also "wasn't all out."
Or are you saying KYRIM and PG are the same person?
Thebby, if so, it's a happy day for men with Italian last names everywhere.
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Just by watching the horse's races over and over again and watching the horse's movement in the race, I would say that War Pass wasn't all out. The only thing I know for sure is that I have seen him run faster. I'll go watch it one more time just to make sure.
It is the same with Bernardini. Bernardini wasn't all out in the Jim Dandy, but was in all of his subsequent races after that.
Big Brown also looked like he wasn't all out in his last start. Whether he was actually restrained or it was the change in the surface, I don't know. I've also seen him run faster.
Their movement in the stretch dictates if they are running as fast as they can or not. You have to compare that from race to race to know in these kinds of situations.
And I am not pg1985.