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Old 06-28-2007, 03:11 PM
ArlJim78 ArlJim78 is offline
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Originally Posted by somerfrost
Wrong is wrong regardless of one's past, but to understand what is happening, one needs an understanding of history and an understanding of the forces at work here...blaming the poor never does any good. Yes, we need to somehow work with the Mexican government...that's where statesmanship comes in, of course they'd rather see folks leave. No, it's not black and white, liberal and conservative but we know why different types of folks resist meaningful reform. I agree that we need an orderly process and we must fix a clearly broken system...my only dog in this fight is that we won't accomplish that by demonizing the poor! And yes, I have always admitted that I consider all folks my brothers and sisters, we can't fix the world but we can do a lot more. Thinking that we can close our borders and hide from the world's problems is what is naive! Everytime this debate comes up, it focuses on the "criminal aliens" instead of the causes...treat the symptoms while ignoring the disease!
this is the approach that congress keep advocating and I think it is wrong and that our government is basically not fullfilling its duty to protect our border. Its not about poor people, its about security. We need not fix every socio-economic issue that is involved here before we attempt to gain control of our border. our freedoms and the sovereignty of our nation are at stake.

there is a fundamental difference between closing your border and controlling your border. No one is advocating closing the border and hiding from all the problems of the world. I'm just saying control the border now in order to minimize further problems, while you're dealing head-on with the problems that have been created.

Why is it that the process of having having a safe secure border that prohibits anyone from just wandering over anytime they desire is equivalent to demonizing the poor?

Far from demonizing the poor, what I really think we are doing is giving preferential treatment to the poor. The people that apply for work visa's, student visa's, etc, that reside in countries that require a flight to gain entrance to the US, basically the people who are playing by the rules and doing things legally, are generally more wealthy and educated and advantaged than those that are crossing over from the south. Its a generalization but I think its fairly accurate. These people that play by the rules have to go through ardous procedures and a lengthy wait in order to comply. Their cases are reviewed somewhat thoroughly and the facts about themselves and their purpose to come to the US is fully reviewed.

On the other hand the ones that flaunt the rules and cross illegally, we look aside and wring our hands and say well there is nothing we can do.
The ones that are here now who violated the law we have to protect and give rights to because they are poor. Its a double standard that is in FAVOR of the poor.
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