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Originally Posted by somerfrost
Yeah, the poor are getting a real deal here...it's all their fault! Unfortunately, the world works very much like it did 400 years ago...violence? Check! Greed? Check! Religious intolerance? Check! What are you saying...that our ancestors had some "god given" right to invade this land, kill the people living here and take their land, but the dastardly poor who ignore our laws and seek a better life are "bad guys"?
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Ok, we're at a total impasse because you think the 16th century and the 21st century are basically the same thing, so I'll let the others take this on with you.
Using all encompassing categories to compare the 16th century and the 21st is sophomoric, and you should know it.
I suppose I don't feel bound to use my four century removed ancestors as an example of how I should live my life today, four centuries later. If that were the case, I would have my slaves typing this for me because I would be too busy with other things.
Because my ancestors may have done something unethical or illegal (did the Native Americans have written laws against this sort of thing? Whose laws were my ancestors breaking? The law of goodwill?) does not disqualify me from being permitted to take the view that our laws should be followed, period, and that we should prosecute illegal aliens.
If your father were a murderer, would it make you a hypocrite for thinking that murder is wrong? Methinks not. So the fact that my ancestors were immigrants who took over a country with force does not make me a hypocrite for not wanting people to illegally overrun my country now.