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Dahoss 08-13-2021 11:05 AM

Trainers react to Navarro Plea
 
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.co...DUmIad.twitter

Best quote by far from Shug:
"The biggest creep I've ever been around or seen in my whole life is Jason Servis. I hope they start getting after him. He is a horrible, horrible guy and had has been horrible for the game."

:D:D:D

freddymo 08-13-2021 12:51 PM

Precious

casp0555 08-13-2021 02:18 PM

Clement's comments make me tilt my head and cock an eyebrow....as in Shekky Shebaz:rolleyes:

RolloTomasi 08-13-2021 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1156935)
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.co...DUmIad.twitter

Best quote by far from Shug:
"The biggest creep I've ever been around or seen in my whole life is Jason Servis. I hope they start getting after him. He is a horrible, horrible guy and had has been horrible for the game."

:D:D:D

I like Ken McPeek not missing a chance to self-promote.

Even with PEDs Navarro couldn't move up off McPeek's brilliant training. Perfect tagline for his website, Twitter feed, or whatever social media platforms he frequents...

Dahoss 08-13-2021 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1156984)
I like Ken McPeek not missing a chance to self-promote.

Even with PEDs Navarro couldn't move up off McPeek's brilliant training. Perfect tagline for his website, Twitter feed, or whatever social media platforms he frequents...

Always be closing

ADJMK 08-14-2021 10:36 AM

Later, following another question, Navarro
confirmed that he and one of the owners of Nanoosh,
who was left unidentified, agreed to continue
administering such drugs to that horse in order to
improve Nanoosh's racing performance.
Nanoosh made the final three starts of his racing
career for Navarro in 2019 for owners Rockingham
Ranch, Zayat Stables, and David Bernsen. Twice the
horse was unplaced, and once he ran third.
Navarro admitted at the hearing that the scheme
included administration of various adulterated and
misbranded performance-enhancing drugs to the
sprinter X Y Jet, including a substance he referred to
as "monkey," to "enhance his performance" in a Feb.
13, 2019, race at Gulfstream Park and in the Dubai
Golden Shaheen Sponsored by Gulf News (G1) in
March 2019 at Meydan.
The indictment charged the trainer personally
administered the drugs while in Dubai.
X Y Jet was campaigned by Gelfenstein Farm
throughout his 26-race career and Rockingham Ranch
took part ownership of the horse in 2016. Bernsen
assumed a 10% interest of X Y Jet in early December 2019
as part of a partial restructuring and dispersal of horses
he owned in partnership with Rockingham Ranch

Think these owners have a few questions to answer

freddymo 08-14-2021 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADJMK (Post 1156999)
Later, following another question, Navarro
confirmed that he and one of the owners of Nanoosh,
who was left unidentified, agreed to continue
administering such drugs to that horse in order to
improve Nanoosh's racing performance.
Nanoosh made the final three starts of his racing
career for Navarro in 2019 for owners Rockingham
Ranch, Zayat Stables, and David Bernsen. Twice the
horse was unplaced, and once he ran third.
Navarro admitted at the hearing that the scheme
included administration of various adulterated and
misbranded performance-enhancing drugs to the
sprinter X Y Jet, including a substance he referred to
as "monkey," to "enhance his performance" in a Feb.
13, 2019, race at Gulfstream Park and in the Dubai
Golden Shaheen Sponsored by Gulf News (G1) in
March 2019 at Meydan.
The indictment charged the trainer personally
administered the drugs while in Dubai.
X Y Jet was campaigned by Gelfenstein Farm
throughout his 26-race career and Rockingham Ranch
took part ownership of the horse in 2016. Bernsen
assumed a 10% interest of X Y Jet in early December 2019
as part of a partial restructuring and dispersal of horses
he owned in partnership with Rockingham Ranch

Think these owners have a few questions to answer

Schultz

cakes44 08-15-2021 08:38 AM

Love seeing multiple trainers publicly commenting on this.

Would be even better if we saw multiple trainers commenting on this while Servis and Navarro were training.

jnunan4759 08-18-2021 06:21 PM

I'm with Cakes. Shug never said anything about Servis when racing against him for 20 years. Now that Servis is finished, Shug comes out. He should have said or done something years ago. Shame on Shug.

freddymo 08-18-2021 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnunan4759 (Post 1157109)
I'm with Cakes. Shug never said anything about Servis when racing against him for 20 years. Now that Servis is finished, Shug comes out. He should have said or done something years ago. Shame on Shug.

Without proof? Have a heart

moses 08-18-2021 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1157112)
Without proof? Have a heart

Somebody who works for a horse racing based gaming company did that on Twitter in regards to certain cheating and was ripped apart by several people in the racing industry. She very well may have been right but it pissed a decent amount of people off and the tweets ended up deleted. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

blackthroatedwind 08-19-2021 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1157114)
Somebody who works for a horse racing based gaming company did that on Twitter in regards to certain cheating and was ripped apart by several people in the racing industry. She very well may have been right but it pissed a decent amount of people off and the tweets ended up deleted. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

Seriously?

It's fair to discuss performances that seem surprising within context, but making rash and unsubstantiated claims is slanderous at best.

moses 08-19-2021 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1157120)
Seriously?

It's fair to discuss performances that seem surprising within context, but making rash and unsubstantiated claims is slanderous at best.

In this specific instance, the tweets mentioned that she had heard from multiple people that jockeys at a certain race track were using buzzers. I don’t know if it was rash or unsubstantiated. I have no clue what those sources were but the person making the tweet seemed to think the sources were sufficient. It’s almost never the case that someone will have a smoking gun to fully substantiate whatever accusation is being made.

My point was only that we shouldn’t expect people within the industry to call others out. Because when someone does, it is met with a lot of blowback and it’s just not worth it for that person. But if they stay silent, then some will criticize them after the fact for not saying anything.

I’ve listened to you enough that I know you toe this line and demonstrate skepticism where appropriate and you do a great job at it. I don’t think there are a lot of people in the industry that the general betting public can trust and you’re one of them.

casp0555 12-17-2021 12:41 PM

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...ce-in-ped-case

I hope he serves every freaking minute of it...which ain't enough for what he has done

freddymo 12-17-2021 03:44 PM

During the proceedings, United States assistant district attorney Sarah Mortazavi expressed shock that roughly 100 pages worth of letters were submitted by supporters on Navarro's behalf in hopes of securing a more lenient sentence.

casp0555 12-17-2021 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1160072)
During the proceedings, United States assistant district attorney Sarah Mortazavi expressed shock that roughly 100 pages worth of letters were submitted by supporters on Navarro's behalf in hopes of securing a more lenient sentence.

probably all relatives :rolleyes:

jnunan4759 12-17-2021 06:24 PM

Actually a bunch of them were relatives.


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