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RockHardTen1985 12-05-2011 09:41 PM

Heisman Finalists
 
I dont have any problem with the 5 guys going to NY. I guess some people could make a case for Matt Barkley, but IMO its not a strong 1.
I would rank the 5 going like this....

1. Griffin
2. Ball
3. Mathieu
4. Richardson
5. Luck

Dahoss 12-05-2011 10:03 PM

Matt Barkley threw for about 400 more yards than Andrew Luck, threw for 39 TD's and only 7 INT's while Luck threw 35 TD's with 9 INT's. Not to mention his team won 10 games and a division with essentially no incentive to because they couldn't play in any bowls or conference championship games.

I'm not saying he should win the thing, but he belongs in NY. His case is as good if not better than Luck's based on what they did on the field.

RockHardTen1985 12-05-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 822214)
Matt Barkley threw for about 400 more yards than Andrew Luck, threw for 39 TD's and only 7 INT's while Luck threw 35 TD's with 9 INT's. Not to mention his team won 10 games and a division with essentially no incentive to because they couldn't play in any bowls or conference championship games.

I'm not saying he should win the thing, but he belongs in NY. His case is as good if not better than Luck's based on what they did on the field.

I did rank Luck 5th. I dont think he deserves the award. Out of the 5 going, who do you think wins it?

Dahoss 12-05-2011 10:18 PM

They have to give it to Robert Griffin after what he has done the last few weeks. He's playing at another level right now. I still prefer Barkley in the pros though, although I'm a sucker for USC QB's.

hi_im_god 12-05-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 822214)
Matt Barkley threw for about 400 more yards than Andrew Luck, threw for 39 TD's and only 7 INT's while Luck threw 35 TD's with 9 INT's. Not to mention his team won 10 games and a division with essentially no incentive to because they couldn't play in any bowls or conference championship games.

I'm not saying he should win the thing, but he belongs in NY. His case is as good if not better than Luck's based on what they did on the field.

and he did it on a team that had scholarship restrictions. which i think despite the fact it should be a plus was a minus in most voters eyes.

if he played at any school that wasn't on probation with those stats, he'd be in ny.

Danzig 12-06-2011 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 822218)
and he did it on a team that had scholarship restrictions. which i think despite the fact it should be a plus was a minus in most voters eyes.

if he played at any school that wasn't on probation with those stats, he'd be in ny.

agree with that completely.

Calzone Lord 12-06-2011 06:32 AM

Luck probably has jack sh!t for talent around him at the skill positions at Stanford...but he grew a vagina in the Oregon game and doesn't belong in the top 3.

3kings 12-06-2011 06:58 AM

I haven't been able to care about the Heisman since Gino Torretta won it. Danny Weurfell and Eric Crouch winning the award did nothing to return credibility to it.

King Glorious 12-06-2011 12:37 PM

I think it's unfair that record plays as a part as it does. A qb can throw for 500 yards and for scores a game but if his defense gives up 50 a week, it's often held against him.

RockHardTen1985 12-10-2011 02:56 PM

According to these odds RG3 is a lock.

Robert Griffin III -2500 Trent Richardson +500 Andrew Luck +900 Montee Ball
+12500 Tyrann Mathieu
+20000

somerfrost 12-10-2011 06:19 PM

Experts seem to like Griffin to win, I can't argue with them.

horseofcourse 12-10-2011 06:45 PM

Griffin should win I think....I hope he does. Great player....and an actual honest to goodness student athlete. I'd hope for him or Luck. Shame Kellen Moore didn't get to make the trip this year. Perhaps the greatest 4 year college quarterback ever. I guess he got to do it last year.

cmorioles 12-10-2011 07:01 PM

I heard the LSU guy interviewed on ESPN today. I hope for his sake he is a great student, but WOW, it is hard to imagine him passing English 101.

After his interview at the awards ceremony, he just seems like someone not comfortable speaking in public.

RockHardTen1985 12-10-2011 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 823999)
I heard the LSU guy interviewed on ESPN today. I hope for his sake he is a great student, but WOW, it is hard to imagine him passing English 101.

After his interview at the awards ceremony, he just seems like someone not comfortable speaking in public.

He was on Scott Van Pelts radio show earlier in the week and it was bad, a lot worst then the interview today if you can believe that.

RockHardTen1985 12-11-2011 12:10 AM

Griffin is really well spoken and is def. a smart kid.
I want him going to the next level.


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