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Kasept 11-10-2010 11:54 AM

11/13 (CD): Commonwealth Turf S. (G3)
 
9th (4:37) Commonwealth Turf S. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Uareoutlaw (BRZ) Mena M 123 LA
2 Celtic New Year Homeister R B Jr 119 L
3 Dark Cove Theriot H J II 119 LA
4 Guys Reward Lanerie C J 117 LA
5 Lighthouse Sound Borel C H 119 LA
6 Stormy Lord Castanon J L 121 L
7 Mister Marti Gras Bridgmohan S X 121 LA
8 Turallure Albarado R J 121 L
9 Mystic Desormeaux K J 119 LA
10 Thunder Brew Lebron V 121 LA
11 Yankee Fourtune Santiago V 123 LA
12 Don Cavallo Contreras L 117 L
13 Beau Choix Leparoux J R 121 LA

Mike 11-12-2010 06:20 PM

Can anyone comment intelligently on Uareoutlaw ?

my miss storm cat 11-12-2010 09:37 PM

Well this isn't exactly intelligent but I'm pretty sure he was 2YO of the year.

Not that that helps at all!

(Mister Marti Gras is my pick here).

VOL JACK 11-12-2010 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 722562)
Can anyone comment intelligently on Uareoutlaw ?

Maker was in love with him when he first started training the horse back in the Summer.
Here lately he isn't beaming with confidence about him.

I ask him where he thought he would run and he simply said...."7th":D

So who knows?
I am looking forward to seeing what he has on his natural surface.
One of those deals where I wouldn't be shocked if he won or ran last.

I do know that this is Maker's first experience with bring a horse over/ from South America...so I think he is learning with the horse also.

Mike 11-13-2010 08:41 AM

I Googled away on Uareoutlaw(not to find much, except they wanted a prep for the Indiana Derby, had contemplated the King's Bishop-both dirt races as you know. High hopes they must have had for him). I'm going to take a shot with him today on the turf

The Bid 11-13-2010 08:51 AM

Don't fall for the cold water.

Mike 11-13-2010 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid (Post 722722)
Don't fall for the cold water.

I'm not sure why I reach for the mystery horses :confused: I figure they are the one's who offer the value, because there are never any speed figs alongside their pp's. The Euro turf horses are well documented, and there are even Timeform and Racing Post ratings.
In one of the early Beyer books, he explained that some of these South American "Grade I" races were not at all equivalent to North American and European graded races
Andy Serling also responded to a questioner recently(not sure if it was here or the NYRA "chat") regarding a Breeders Cup horse that made me think this type of wager was either a sucker bet, or worse, a wager made by someone throwing in the towel, as in "If I'm clueless with all the information available to me, I might as well take a stab at some mystery longshot":wf
I haven't made a wager like this since Espoir City

my miss storm cat 11-13-2010 08:31 PM

:wf


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