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Kasept 04-09-2010 11:23 AM

4/12 (PHA): Redboard King debut set
 
6th (2:31)

6 1/2 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $41,000

1 1 Brahms Concerto Camacho E Trombetta Michael J 121 L 2-1
2 2 Holyfield Rose J Dutrow Anthony W 121 L 3-1
3 3 Delaney's d'Lite Wales G Reid Robert E Jr 1165 L 12-1
4 4 Redboard King Carmouche K Simon Charles 121 12-1
5 5 O When the Saints Black A S Levine Carol Lynn 121 Blk-On L 6-1
6 6 Score the Gold Diaz V Maymo Alejandro 121 L 15-1
7 7 Suddenly Sam Cintron A Dotolo David 121 L 10-1
8 8 My Elusive Star Elliott S Servis John C 121 L 4-1

Pick 3 (Races 6-7-8) Exacta / Trifecta

rpncaine 04-09-2010 11:38 AM

Nice purse. Can't watch at work but will be there in spirt.

Kasept 04-09-2010 12:28 PM

Tough place to debut a turf route horse, but you have to debut somewhere, sometime.. The 1, 8 and 5 have a big edge on the field and someone thought highly enough of the Tony Dutrow firster to pay $140k.

pweizer 04-09-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 633947)
PHILADELPHIA 6th (2:31)

6 1/2 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $41,000

1 Brahms Concerto Camacho E 121 L
2 Holyfield Rose J 121 L
3 Delaney's d'Lite Wales G 116 L
4 Redboard King Black A S 121
5 O When the Saints Black A S 121 Blk-On L
6 Score the Gold Diaz V 121 L
7 Suddenly Sam Cintron A 121 L
8 My Elusive Star Elliott S 121 L



GRADED ENTRIES -- SIXTH RACE Probable Post 2:31 EDT

6 1/2 Furlongs. 3-Year-Olds. Maiden Special Weight. Purse: $41,000

1 Brahms Concerto Camacho E 121 2-1
8 My Elusive Star Elliott S 121 5-2
3 Delaney's d'Lite Wales G 116 6-1
5 O When the Saints Black A S 121 6-1
6 Score the Gold Diaz V 121 6-1
2 Holyfield Rose J 121 15-1
4 Redboard King Black A S 121 15-1
7 Suddenly Sam Cintron A 121 20-1


Is Tony Black to ride? he is listed on two horses above.

Paul

miraja2 04-09-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 633969)
Tough place to debut a turf route horse, but you have to debut somewhere, sometime.. The 1, 8 and 5 have a big edge on the field and someone thought highly enough of the Tony Dutrow firster to pay $140k.

I apologize if you have already explained this elsewhere, but I am curious why you call him a turf horse. The pedigree looks more dirt/route to me, and I believe he posted some pretty decent works over the dirt. Obviously you and Chuck know what you're doing, and I ask just because even though I'm not involved directly with DeeTee, I always enjoy getting an inside look into how and/or why connections target specific races.
Best of luck with Redboard King at Philly next week and going forward. I hope to see him in person if he makes a trip to AP at some point this summer.

Cannon Shell 04-09-2010 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 633985)
Is Tony Black to ride? he is listed on two horses above.

Paul

I believe K Carmouche is riding our horse

Cannon Shell 04-09-2010 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 634019)
I apologize if you have already explained this elsewhere, but I am curious why you call him a turf horse. The pedigree looks more dirt/route to me, and I believe he posted some pretty decent works over the dirt. Obviously you and Chuck know what you're doing, and I ask just because even though I'm not involved directly with DeeTee, I always enjoy getting an inside look into how and/or why connections target specific races.
Best of luck with Redboard King at Philly next week and going forward. I hope to see him in person if he makes a trip to AP at some point this summer.

He worked much better earlier in the year on the turf and we were thinking that he may be better on the grass as a lot of Smarty Jones offspring. He has, however, really improved on the dirt the last 6 weeks and I am hoping that he can handle the dirt as well as the turf.

I am under no illusions that he will be at his best on Monday but he has trained well lately and is ready to move onto the next stage. The race will do him some good from a fitness standpoint as well, especially if we look to stretch him out and the experience of going through the paddock/post parade/ starting gate process is important going forward.

31lengths 04-12-2010 10:24 AM

Everything still a go for today?

Cannon Shell 04-12-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 31lengths (Post 635328)
Everything still a go for today?

Yes

wally09 04-12-2010 10:45 AM

Good luck today. Hoping for a useful, safe trip for all involved

Princess Doreen 04-12-2010 10:46 AM

Heading over to OTB to place a $20 show bet.

miraja2 04-12-2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 634237)
He worked much better earlier in the year on the turf and we were thinking that he may be better on the grass as a lot of Smarty Jones offspring. He has, however, really improved on the dirt the last 6 weeks and I am hoping that he can handle the dirt as well as the turf.

I am under no illusions that he will be at his best on Monday but he has trained well lately and is ready to move onto the next stage. The race will do him some good from a fitness standpoint as well, especially if we look to stretch him out and the experience of going through the paddock/post parade/ starting gate process is important going forward.

Gotcha. Well, I imagine it is nice to at least have reason to think that he might be effective on multiple surfaces.
Good luck with him today. Here's hoping he handles himself well with all of the questions that inevitably accompany a debut, and brings home a decent check for you guys in the process.

scanman 04-12-2010 12:27 PM

Best of luck today. Will be routing for you guys.

pmacdaddy 04-12-2010 12:33 PM

Quite a race by Richwood Silver in the 3rd.

Many Others 04-12-2010 01:42 PM

watching very quietly at work - RK looked great in the post parade...

Coach Pants 04-12-2010 01:45 PM

Did not like the rail one bit.

Many Others 04-12-2010 01:54 PM

had to throw down to minimized screen couldnt see a f-ing thing except think mighta been him strolling home dfl???? oh well, good edumacation race gots to start somewhere, onward !

Patrick333 04-12-2010 02:15 PM

Here's the not to happy chart.

http://equibase.com/static/chart/pdf/PHA041210USA6.pdf

AeWingnut 04-12-2010 03:26 PM

The chart has him breaking last and staying last
that isn't totally true
he had a horse or 2 beat on the back stretch
he stopped on the turn
and he seemed a little bit small
relatively speaking

Unstable 04-12-2010 06:19 PM

My excuse, uh, observation of Redboard's race is a dead rail. The previous race's winner stayed 3 or 4 wide the entire way around the track. Any horse that dropped down to the rail faded. Granted, I think he needed the race, but I think he could have held on and beat a couple of horses if he hadn't dropped down to the rail midway on the back stretch.

I'll be interested to see how he came out of the race. Better racing next time....


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