Derby Trail Forums
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

Derby Trail Forums (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/index.php)
-   The Paddock (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   Rasmussen Poll- Only 10% want to ban horse racing (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22500)

Better Than Honour 05-16-2008 01:19 PM
Rasmussen Poll- Only 10% want to ban horse racing
 
Looks like the PETA effort was useless.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...g_horse_racing

johnny pinwheel 05-16-2008 01:36 PM
its useless,this happens every time they open their mouths. they are just nuts. but something has to be done about the drugs. these horses are running "doped" up to cover their problems and then being bred. horse racing could get away from all these idiots if they just went back to getting hardier athletes. the percentage would probably go down to about 1% or the number of members they have that have nothing better to do .

letswastemoney 05-16-2008 01:39 PM
I still don't think peta is useless. there always needs to be a balance and an organization like this brings these problems to light to those who wouldn't otherwise think about it.

Cannon Shell 05-16-2008 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
its useless,this happens every time they open their mouths. they are just nuts. but something has to be done about the drugs. these horses are running "doped" up to cover their problems and then being bred. horse racing could get away from all these idiots if they just went back to getting hardier athletes. the percentage would probably go down to about 1% or the number of members they have that have nothing better to do .
How exactly do you know this other than your own personal experience in being "doped" up?

Cannon Shell 05-16-2008 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I still don't think peta is useless. there always needs to be a balance and an organization like this brings these problems to light to those who wouldn't otherwise think about it.
Isnt that what terrorists do? Kidnap innocent people to bring their own issues to light? If you believe that they truly care about the horses, or the issues you may tend to lean a bit to the naive side. It is a money grab, no more, no less.

Better Than Honour 05-16-2008 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I still don't think peta is useless. there always needs to be a balance and an organization like this brings these problems to light to those who wouldn't otherwise think about it.
They aren't useless but they are opportunists that use tragedy to raise money. They know that horses of this caliber are taken better care of than 80% of the people in the world. They just wanted to exploit the situation to raise money.

The funny thing is she was a filly and top fillies live great long lives. It is the slow colts that they should be crying about because almost all of them are sent to be slaughtered.

Kasept 05-16-2008 02:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I still don't think peta is useless. there always needs to be a balance and an organization like this brings these problems to light to those who wouldn't otherwise think about it.
LWM,

I'm sorry.. This is an outlandish comment. Do you really think the 'these problems' (whichever you're refering to) weren't being thought about?

Which ones?

The safer surface debate? That wasn't being thought about? PETA brought that to light did they? The industry hasn't been openly researching it and debating it the last 2-3 years?

The 'race horses older' debate? You mean the one that EVERY STUDY CONDUCTED proves is 100% wrong? And in fact proves that the opposite is true... that strenuous exercise and racing at 2 promotes soundness.

The 'breeding' debate? The one about brilliance v. stoutness that has been going on for... 100 years? That debate?

I'm very curious to know what you think was brought to light that isn't already under major focus from the industry currently.

PETA isn't a 'balance'.. it's a pack of extremists and terorists. And they're of no use to the racing industry. NONE. They will only turn off potenially interested parties with their lies and misrepresentations.

TheSpyder 05-16-2008 02:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
LWM,

I'm sorry.. This is an outlandish comment. Do you really think the 'these problems' (whichever you're refering to) weren't being thought about?

Which ones?

The safer surface debate? That wasn't being thought about? PETA brought that to light did they? The industry hasn't been openly researching it and debating it the last 2-3 years?

The 'race horses older' debate? You mean the one that EVERY STUDY CONDUCTED proves is 100% wrong? And in fact proves that the opposite is true... that strenuous exercise and racing at 2 promotes soundness.

The 'breeding' debate? The one about brilliance v. stoutness that has been going on for... 100 years? That debate?

I'm very curious to know what you think was brought to light that isn't already under major focus from the industry currently.

PETA isn't a 'balance'.. it's a pack of extremists and terorists. And they're of no use to the racing industry. NONE. They will only turn off potenially interested parties with their lies and misrepresentations.
I think he was refering to what Coach said the other day....they do make a hell of a bread...besides that...nada.

Spyder

DogsUp 05-16-2008 02:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
LWM,

I'm sorry.. This is an outlandish comment. Do you really think the 'these problems' (whichever you're refering to) weren't being thought about?

Which ones?

The safer surface debate? That wasn't being thought about? PETA brought that to light did they? The industry hasn't been openly researching it and debating it the last 2-3 years?

The 'race horses older' debate? You mean the one that EVERY STUDY CONDUCTED proves is 100% wrong? And in fact proves that the opposite is true... that strenuous exercise and racing at 2 promotes soundness.

The 'breeding' debate? The one about brilliance v. stoutness that has been going on for... 100 years? That debate?

I'm very curious to know what you think was brought to light that isn't already under major focus from the industry currently.

PETA isn't a 'balance'.. it's a pack of extremists and terorists. And they're of no use to the racing industry. NONE. They will only turn off potenially interested parties with their lies and misrepresentations.
Calling them terrorists is pretty harsh and I would think strongly about a recanter. Not every member of PETA is a terrorist. Every organization has crazy people and people who really care about the cause. Currently, PETA is trying to get legislation against hormones in out meat (which I am in favor of). Yes, they do some bad things and Yes, they do some good. But calling PETA has a whole a terrorist organization is childish and wrong.

Kasept 05-16-2008 02:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DogsUp
Calling them terrorists is pretty harsh and I would think strongly about a recanter. Not every member of PETA is a terrorist. Every organization has crazy people and people who really care about the cause. Currently, PETA is trying to get legislation against hormones in out meat (which I am in favor of). Yes, they do some bad things and Yes, they do some good. But calling PETA has a whole a terrorist organization is childish and wrong.
Respect your view... Appreciate the input.. But... They're terrotists and frauds operating under the guise of 'charity'...

Any organization that funds individuals responsible for fire-bombings of medical laboratories is in my book a terrorist organization or sympathizer. Their support of radical animal libertarian organizations is well-documented...

And I'm certainly not 'recanting' my criticism of this sad bunch of hypocrites and tax cheats.

DogsUp 05-16-2008 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Respect your view... Appreciate the input.. But... They're terrotists and frauds operating under the guise of 'charity'...

Any organization that funds individuals responsible for fire-bombings of medical laboratories is in my book a terrorist organization or sympathizer. Their support of radical animal libertarian organizations is well-documented...

And I'm certainly not 'recanting' my criticism of this sad bunch of hypocrites and tax cheats.
Then I guess you can say that the American Gov't are terrorists as well. I guess you can call the NYRA, NTRA and Breeders Cup terrorists as well. If you use this philosophy, almost all of us are terrorists.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-16-2008 02:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Their support of radical animal libertarian organizations is well-documented
They buy tickets to WNBA games?

pgiaco 05-16-2008 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DogsUp
Then I guess you can say that the American Gov't are terrorists as well. I guess you can call the NYRA, NTRA and Breeders Cup terrorists as well. If you use this philosophy, almost all of us are terrorists.
That's a terrific comparison. I suggest decaf.

DogsUp 05-16-2008 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pgiaco
That's a terrific comparison. I suggest decaf.
How so? I was basing this on the criteria given to me by the poster.

blackthroatedwind 05-16-2008 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
They buy tickets to WNBA games?

Have you ever considered applying to be a cheerleader?

pgiaco 05-16-2008 03:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DogsUp
How so? I was basing this on the criteria given to me by the poster.
Leaving politics and the US Govt. out of this, I don't see NYRA, NTRA or Breeder's Cup engaging in parallel activities such as fire bombing labs or pouring red paint on old ladies coats.

pointman 05-16-2008 03:33 PM
As Ray Kerrison pointed out in the NY Post today, since 1998 PETA has euthanized 85% of the pets they have "rescued." That translates to over 17,000 animals during that period of time. If anyone seriously thinks that PETA cares about horses and that this is not about fundraising they are seriously misguided.

blackthroatedwind 05-16-2008 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pgiaco
Leaving politics and the US Govt. out of this, I don't see NYRA, NTRA or Breeder's Cup engaging in parallel activities such as fire bombing labs or pouring red paint on old ladies coats.

Only occasionally.

hi_im_god 05-16-2008 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Better Than Honour
Looks like the PETA effort was useless.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...g_horse_racing
i think the idea that 10% would want the sport banned and 17% aren't sure how they feel actually is a problem.

when more than 1/4 the people surveyed don't have a knee jerk reaction that the most radical action possible isn't absurd...that's a problem.

if 1/4 of people surveyed were either in favor of or neutral on the idea that you should be executed, you'd see that as a success?

Better Than Honour 05-16-2008 04:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i think the idea that 10% would want the sport banned and 17% aren't sure how they feel actually is a problem.

when more than 1/4 the people surveyed don't have a knee jerk reaction that the most radical action possible isn't absurd...that's a problem.

if 1/4 of people surveyed were either in favor of or neutral on the idea that you should be executed, you'd see that as a success?
Well 10% is the number that you can always expect in any poll. There is almost always a built in 5-10% that will be in opposition to any issue. The 17% that aren't sure usually are people that don't care one way or the other about horse racing.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:05 AM.
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.