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Kasept 04-21-2007 09:15 AM

HASKIN: 'Wildn'Crazy' to Derby
 
Steve Haskin reporting on "Derby Trail LIVE!" that Bill Kaplan will enter I'mawildandcrazyguy in Derby 133 pushing Chelokee further down the earnings list to #21...

brianwspencer 04-21-2007 09:20 AM

now THAT is a development!

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-21-2007 09:44 AM

too bad its not looking good for the best long shot to get in......

docicu3 04-21-2007 10:16 AM

There is alot of time still for scratches I wouldn't give up yet......long shot wouldn't be the term I would use though. Nuclear Bomb level comes to mind...

I wonder what the highest paying exacta and tri payoffs have been for triple crown races or more specifically the derby???

brianwspencer 04-21-2007 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
There is alot of time still for scratches I wouldn't give up yet......long shot wouldn't be the term I would use though. Nuclear Bomb level comes to mind...

I wonder what the highest paying exacta and tri payoffs have been for triple crown races or more specifically the derby???

Could anything be bigger than tha 2005 Derby? Wasn't the Exacta something like 10K and the Tri 133K?

AeWingnut 04-21-2007 01:18 PM

I liked Chelokee. I think if you like Scat Daddy you have to like Chelokee
dang... stupid Derby Fever costing us a nice long shot to play. They should have run Chelokee somewhere and got him some more earnings. I guess they don't think he is good enough

timmgirvan 04-21-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
There is alot of time still for scratches I wouldn't give up yet......long shot wouldn't be the term I would use though. Nuclear Bomb level comes to mind...

I wonder what the highest paying exacta and tri payoffs have been for triple crown races or more specifically the derby???

I seem to remember a $2 tri paying close to 15 grand! And the exactas are 200+...a good day to spread:D

Dunbar 04-22-2007 10:05 AM

It must have been the fast work that gave Imawild's connections hope:

Risen Star S. (G3) runner-up IMAWILDANDCRAZYGUY (Wild Event), unplaced most recently in the Florida Derby (G1), worked five furlongs in 1:05.

--Dunbar

mclem10011 04-22-2007 11:43 AM

Steve....
 
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't WildnCrazyguy the one that Bill Kaplan mentioned weeks back on ATRAB that he really wanted to get into the Derby? Because he said he's bred to love that distance?

slotdirt 04-22-2007 08:56 PM

The tri in the '05 Derby paid a hell of a lot more than $15k. Try like $90k for a $2 ticket.

Danzig 04-22-2007 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar
It must have been the fast work that gave Imawild's connections hope:

Risen Star S. (G3) runner-up IMAWILDANDCRAZYGUY (Wild Event), unplaced most recently in the Florida Derby (G1), worked five furlongs in 1:05.

--Dunbar

funny, i don't see (bullet) next to that time....

miraja2 04-22-2007 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem10011
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't WildnCrazyguy the one that Bill Kaplan mentioned weeks back on ATRAB that he really wanted to get into the Derby? Because he said he's bred to love that distance?

Well....his sire (Wild Event) was a graded stakes winner at 10f and 12f, but he hasn't exactly been siring a lot of great routers in his stud career. His dam-side doesn't look THAT great to me (he is out of an unraced Top Account mare) in terms of 10f ability.
Of course.....the real reason to toss him in a G1 10f race, has less to do with pedigree, and more to do with the fact that he is 2 for 11 lifetime and has yet to win a stakes race.

Merlinsky 04-23-2007 05:09 AM

Does Derby fever just drive you to enter a horse regardless of ability or does it also induce hallucinations that you have a better animal than you do? Of course watch the bugger win the thing but my idea is, even if a horse I didn't pick wins, I want to be able to enjoy it and root for that horse in the future. Not go 'oh crap, as if he'll ever repeat that effort.' Essentially if this horse wins, I don't know that I'd find it terribly fun at all, not for the connections, the horse, or myself. Do we have any idea what they're doing with Xchanger as of yet? Did the trainer for Slew's Tizzy speak too soon and his owner's all for it? I'm trying to figure out who we can nudge to the side to get Chelokee in, not because I'm all over Chelokee as much as I'm happy for Matz to be back with a live one. The horse is nice too though. I hate keeping out horses that folks want in. That's the main thing.

Bobby Fischer 04-23-2007 09:37 AM

Imawildandcrazyguy really caught my eye with his nice finish at the Risen Star. He also did his running late in that one which had a 'wild pace set up and traffic problems for Circular Quay. He hasn't really reached the top class level in his last couple of preps, although he has made some independant moves within the races.
I happen to think he needs some class relief and probably is best at about 8.5 furlongs. It is possible that he could like 10furlongs if it eliminates some of his competition, my guess would be that he would flatten out.

Hey I hope Chelokee gets in with as many fans as he has.

docicu3 04-23-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
The tri in the '05 Derby paid a hell of a lot more than $15k. Try like $90k for a $2 ticket.

Actually the insane payoffs $2 exacta Giaocomo/Closing Argument $9914
$2 Tri Giaocomo/Closing Argument/Afleet Alex $133,134.80

$1 Super Giaocomo/Closing Argument/Afleet Alex/Dont get Mad = $884,253.50 OMG....talk about life changing scores!!!

PPerfectfan 04-23-2007 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
Actually the insane payoffs $2 exacta Giaocomo/Closing Argument $9914
$2 Tri Giaocomo/Closing Argument/Afleet Alex $133,134.80

$1 Super Giaocomo/Closing Argument/Afleet Alex/Dont get Mad = $884,253.50 OMG....talk about life changing scores!!!

Yeah freaking Giaocomo, I had Closing Argument in all spots on my tickets, and only had Giaocomo 2nd,3rd and 4th. My first time bettor friend was jumping up and down, "our horses came in,our horses came in", then I had to explain why we didnt get crapola! :mad:

slotdirt 04-23-2007 10:08 AM

Yeah, I hit the exacta and my wife at the time asked why I hadn't bet the tri since I also had Afleet Alex on my ticket.


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