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Coach Pants 09-24-2012 10:53 PM

Time for Goodell to go
 
If her were to follow the disciplinary standards that he imposes on players and coaches he would have been gone already.

This league is a joke.

Dahoss 09-24-2012 10:56 PM

My measly $100 I had on the Packers doesn't mean much...but this result is as ridiculous as I have ever seen.

This was a robbery on live TV...no other way to put it.

cmorioles 09-24-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 892123)
My measly $100 I had on the Packers doesn't mean much...but this result is as ridiculous as I have ever seen.

This was a robbery on live TV...no other way to put it.

Not that it would help you, but how can this not be overturned by the NFL? It was a clear mistake on the last play of the game. I know it will never happen, but if this were baseball it would be overturned via protest.

Dahoss 09-24-2012 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 892126)
Not that it would help you, but how can this not be overturned by the NFL? It was a clear mistake on the last play of the game. I know it will never happen, but if this were baseball it would be overturned via protest.

Because Goodell is too stubborn to admit he's wrong.

Whatever integrity the NFL had left has to be gone, right?

IrishofNDMan 09-24-2012 11:41 PM

Let's give Golden Tate some credit, he fought for it til the end. Where did he play his college ball at?

cmorioles 09-25-2012 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan (Post 892130)
Let's give Golden Tate some credit, he fought for it til the end. Where did he play his college ball at?

Seriously, who gives a fuŠk?

wiphan 09-25-2012 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 892128)
Because Goodell is too stubborn to admit he's wrong.

Whatever integrity the NFL had left has to be gone, right?

Watching games this weekend and last night I am done with the NFL for now until they bring back qualified refs. There is no integrity left and the league is a joke. Goodell needs to be ousted. He is a disgrace to the league.

Danzig 09-25-2012 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 892131)
Seriously, who gives a fuŠk?

:tro:


the initial call was an abomination. not overturning it is inexplicable.

the nfl absolutely should overturn it. there's no excuse for allowing that to stand.

docicu3 09-25-2012 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 892142)
:tro:


the initial call was an abomination. not overturning it is inexplicable.

the nfl absolutely should overturn it. there's no excuse for allowing that to stand.

As much as the right result would be upheld, there is no precedent for changing the outcome of an NFL game due to referee incompetence the day after the game is final.

I would however love to hear what was said between Moe, Larry, Curly and Shemp after the play to overrule the ref signaling touchback because of the INT.

horseofcourse 09-25-2012 07:12 AM

Roger Goodell is simply behaving as most professional pimps do. 30 some years ago they got other air traffic controllers trained. The war on labor has been ongoing forever. This is simply the latest. Goodell DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ANY OF THIS. He'll get what he wants. Most pimps do.

Danzig 09-25-2012 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 892145)
As much as the right result would be upheld, there is no precedent for changing the outcome of an NFL game due to referee incompetence the day after the game is final.

I would however love to hear what was said between Moe, Larry, Curly and Shemp after the play to overrule the ref signaling touchback because of the INT.

i know it's never been done.
but that doesn't mean it can't be done now. what's worse? the failure to overturn the horrible call during review, or letting seattle 'win' a game it clearly didn't.
in the past, when you've had bad calls, it hasn't necessarily been the last call as time expired. it's time to set precedent-don't let an awful call stand here, there's no reason to let it stand.
and the guy who said the ruling stood, who reviewed it, he should be sacked. he shouldn't be able to call peewee football, let alone a professional game.

Danzig 09-25-2012 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 892146)
Roger Goodell is simply behaving as most professional pimps do. 30 some years ago they got other air traffic controllers trained. The war on labor has been ongoing forever. This is simply the latest. Goodell DOES NOT CARE ABOUT ANY OF THIS. He'll get what he wants. Most pimps do.

war on labor?! refs are laborers now? they want to make a ton of money for a few hours work part of the year. sorry, i don't agree that the refs are correct in this matter.

horseofcourse 09-25-2012 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 892148)
war on labor?! refs are laborers now? they want to make a ton of money for a few hours work part of the year. sorry, i don't agree that the refs are correct in this matter.

yes they are. it's an incredibly difficult and specialized job. extremely unimportant in the scheme of life, but so is the quarterback's job extremely unimportant in life's scheme. the pay they want is not even remotely close to the players. the refs are correct, the end.

Danzig 09-25-2012 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 892149)
yes they are. it's an incredibly difficult and specialized job. extremely unimportant in the scheme of life, but so is the quarterback's job extremely unimportant in life's scheme. the pay they want is not even remotely close to the players. the refs are correct, the end.

the pay shouldn't be remotely close. last i heard the refs were asking for 20 million more than the league was offering.
i find that absurd.

and it's not hard-we all make calls at home all the time!!! :D

horseofcourse 09-25-2012 07:46 AM

and of course the refs are laborers, to think otherwise is simply wrong.

wiphan 09-25-2012 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 892145)
As much as the right result would be upheld, there is no precedent for changing the outcome of an NFL game due to referee incompetence the day after the game is final.

I would however love to hear what was said between Moe, Larry, Curly and Shemp after the play to overrule the ref signaling touchback because of the INT.

The damage is done, you can't change what has been done now. The ref that signalled touch down and the ref that reviewed the play had to have some large :$::$::$: on the game because no one in their right mind can say that was a catch and a TD unless of course you received your education at Notre Dame

Danzig 09-25-2012 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 892152)
and of course the refs are laborers, to think otherwise is simply wrong.

i appreciate you giving your opinion.

Danzig 09-25-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 892153)
The damage is done, you can't change what has been done now. The ref that signalled touch down and the ref that reviewed the play had to have some large :$::$::$: on the game because no one in their right mind can say that was a catch and a TD unless of course you received your education at Notre Dame

i was simply amazed, and appalled, that they upheld that ruling on review. bad enough the initial mistake was made by one ref-but to let it stand? inconceivable!

MaTH716 09-25-2012 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 892155)
i was simply amazed, and appalled, that they upheld that ruling on review. bad enough the initial mistake was made by one ref-but to let it stand? inconceivable!

Are the replay officials replacement too?

GBBob 09-25-2012 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 892153)
The damage is done, you can't change what has been done now. The ref that signalled touch down and the ref that reviewed the play had to have some large :$::$::$: on the game because no one in their right mind can say that was a catch and a TD unless of course you received your education at Notre Dame

Not that it matters in the scheme of things because there were bad calls on Seattle too, but the earlier PI on Shields was atrocious and they gave the kicking ball to Rodgers on the 2pt conversion.

Danzig 09-25-2012 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 892156)
Are the replay officials replacement too?

nope.

which makes the call that much worse. if they are supposed to know better, since they're the 'real' folks, than what's their excuse?

the replacements refs are bad-but the regular refs come up with some doozies too.

Dahoss 09-25-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan (Post 892130)
Let's give Golden Tate some credit, he fought for it til the end. Where did he play his college ball at?

He's really distinguished himself this season. A vicious, but legal, block on that guy on the Cowboys for which he HAD to gloat and taunt, who cares what the condition of the guy is.

But last night was even better. He actually talked sh.it after the call wasn't reversed. Seriously? Who gloats for winning like that?

He's a punk.

Calzone Lord 09-25-2012 08:47 AM

Every game I watched (parts of) on Sunday was an officiating disaster.

It seems like this replacement refs are getting worse -- I thought they did fine week 1, they kind of sucked week 2, and week 3 was an utter abortion.

Danzig 09-25-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 892157)
Not that it matters in the scheme of things because there were bad calls on Seattle too, but the earlier PI on Shields was atrocious and they gave the kicking ball to Rodgers on the 2pt conversion.

that was unreal also.
and they can't count yards either. on sunday, they assessed 20 yards for a 15 yard penalty in the 'skins game. you'd think they could keep track of how many white lines to cross.

cmorioles 09-25-2012 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 892147)
i know it's never been done.
but that doesn't mean it can't be done now. what's worse? the failure to overturn the horrible call during review, or letting seattle 'win' a game it clearly didn't.
in the past, when you've had bad calls, it hasn't necessarily been the last call as time expired. it's time to set precedent-don't let an awful call stand here, there's no reason to let it stand.
and the guy who said the ruling stood, who reviewed it, he should be sacked. he shouldn't be able to call peewee football, let alone a professional game.

Watching Mike and Mike this morning, and there is a rule where the commissioner, and only the commissioner, can overturn the result. In this case, if they admit the call was wrong, how can they not?

Of course I'm betting they somehow try to explain that the call is not clear cut or something to that effect. It is hilarious watching this covered on NFL Network. They are trying to spin it like it was the right call.

3kings 09-25-2012 09:00 AM

These refs have been afraid to make tough calls against the home team from the start but last night was rediculous. The NFL should be ashamed of what they are putting out there because it is affecting the outcome of games.

Crown@club 09-25-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 892145)
As much as the right result would be upheld, there is no precedent for changing the outcome of an NFL game due to referee incompetence the day after the game is final.

I would however love to hear what was said between Moe, Larry, Curly and Shemp after the play to overrule the ref signaling touchback because of the INT.

Moe never confirmed with Larry, Curly and Shemp. He went straight to the replay booth. One thing to keep in mind, replay can't confirm possession for some stupid-a$$ reason.

So 3 of these officials are former Pac10 officials who were fired due to incompetence.

Crown@club 09-25-2012 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 892171)
Watching Mike and Mike this morning, and there is a rule where the commissioner, and only the commissioner, can overturn the result. In this case, if they admit the call was wrong, how can they not?

Of course I'm betting they somehow try to explain that the call is not clear cut or something to that effect.

Yea, we are suppose to get a written statement by the NFL explaining the ruling last night. Can't wait to read that BS.

3kings 09-25-2012 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 892171)
Watching Mike and Mike this morning, and there is a rule where the commissioner, and only the commissioner, can overturn the result. In this case, if they admit the call was wrong, how can they not?

Of course I'm betting they somehow try to explain that the call is not clear cut or something to that effect.

They won't change the result because of the gambling factor. The NFL claims to abhor gambling but they know there is a direct correlation between gambling dollars and their popularity.

Crown@club 09-25-2012 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 892165)
He's really distinguished himself this season. A vicious, but legal, block on that guy on the Cowboys for which he HAD to gloat and taunt, who cares what the condition of the guy is.

But last night was even better. He actually talked sh.it after the call wasn't reversed. Seriously? Who gloats for winning like that?

He's a punk.

Hey, he played at a school that is very, very good at covering up criminal activity. Takes a while to break from that mode.

MaTH716 09-25-2012 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 892163)
nope.

which makes the call that much worse. if they are supposed to know better, since they're the 'real' folks, than what's their excuse?

the replacements refs are bad-but the regular refs come up with some doozies too.

This to me this is the much bigger story. The replacement officials are nothing more than scabs who are doing there best. Obviously they are in WAY over their heads. The fact that an regular NFL official/employee didn't overturn the call from the booth, magnifies the whole incident by 1000. That's the guy who should be terminated on the spot this morning.

Calzone Lord 09-25-2012 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 892179)
The fact that an regular NFL official/employee didn't overturn the call from the booth, magnifies the whole incident by 1000. That's the guy who should be terminated on the spot this morning.

By rule, he can't.

Simultaneous possession can't be challenged or overturned by review.

The replacement guys, in a lot of instances this week, have shown that they don't know all of the rules.

Dahoss 09-25-2012 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 892177)
Hey, he played at a school that is very, very good at covering up criminal activity. Takes a while to break from that mode.

I actually forgot about the blatant pass interference also.

What a guy.

MaTH716 09-25-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 892181)
By rule, he can't.

Simultaneous possession can't be challenged or overturned by review.

The replacement guys, in a lot of instances this week, have shown that they don't know all of the rules.

That's excellent, so not only did they botch the call, the botched call that they made turned it into something that couldn't be challenged or overturned.
Just stellar, you can't make this stuff up.

King Glorious 09-25-2012 09:47 AM

I actually think this could push the two sides further apart. The league is under tremendous pressure to come to an agreement with the refs this morning but at the same time, the refs are now negotiating from a tremendous position of strength. They have no reason to give in and instead can just sit back and let public opinion continue to build against the league.

OldDog 09-25-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 892183)
That's excellent, so not only did they botch the call, the botched call that they made turned it into something that couldn't be challenged or overturned.
Just stellar, you can't make this stuff up.

Let's not forget the calls that kept the Seahawks' final drive going, first the bogus roughing the passer that called back a Packer interception, and later the defensive pass interference that should have been ruled offensive pass interference. On the flip side, there were questionable calls favoring the Packers on their TD drive, too. The officiating in this game reached an all-time NFL low.

wiphan 09-25-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 892191)
Let's not forget the calls that kept the Seahawks' final drive going, first the bogus roughing the passer that called back a Packer interception, and later the defensive pass interference that should have been ruled offensive pass interference. On the flip side, there were questionable calls favoring the Packers on their TD drive, too. The officiating in this game reached an all-time NFL low.

There were horrible calls throughout that game. Feel free to call the commisioner if you are done with these refs (212) 450-2027 Roger's office number

GBBob 09-25-2012 10:21 AM

I wonder if Tony the Tuna got a hold of one of the refs

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/84...-150-250m-bets

Calzone Lord 09-25-2012 10:30 AM

Fast forward to 25 seconds in...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpX3fJunp1M


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