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Kasept 05-02-2012 04:12 PM

5/5 (CD): 138th Kentucky Derby (G1), 5 Undercard Stakes
 
6th (1:19) Twin Spires Turf Sprint S. (G3)

5 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $125,000

1 1 Santo Gato Bejarano R Scherer Merrill R 118 L 20-1
2 2 Great Attack Rosario J Ward Wesley A 120 LA 8-1
3 3 Cactus Son Albarado R J Smith Kenny P 118 L 15-1
4 4 Bridgetown Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 118 LA 6-5
5 5 City Sage Borel C H Arnett Jon G 118 L 20-1
6 6 Stormy Going Saez G Dodgen James A 118 L 30-1
7 7 Speight the Halo Graham J Zavash Kerry P 118 LA 30-1
8 8 Spinning Move Lanerie C J Howard Neil J 118 LA 15-1
9 9 Amanecer de Oro Eramia R E Duke Steven 118 LA 20-1
10 10 Great Mills Leparoux J R Asmussen Steven M 120 LA 5-1
11 11 Chamberlain Bridge Theriot H J II Calhoun W. B 118 LA 5-1
12 12 Shabaab Contreras L Vassilieva K 118 L 12-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Daily Double / Pick 3 (Races 6-7-8) Pick 6 (Races 6-11)



7th (2:08) Churchill Downs S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 1 Smiling Tiger Rosario J Bonde Jeff 118 LA 3-1
2 2 Alma d'Oro Castellano J J Pletcher Todd A 118 LA 10-1
3 3 Apriority Bejarano R Fawkes David 118 LA 8-1
4 4 Shackleford Castanon J L Romans Dale 118 LA 2-1
5 5 Hamazing Destiny Nakatani C S Lukas D Wayne 118 LA 15-1
6 6 Amazombie Smith M E Spawr Bill 123 L 5-2
7 7 Gantry Eramia R E Faucheux Ron 118 LA 20-1
8 8 Will's Wildcat Borel C H Baker James E 118 LA 12-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Daily Double / Pick 3 (Races 7-8-9) Pick 5 (7-8-9-10-11)



8th (2:59) Churchill Distaff Turf Mile S. (G2)

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 1 Heavenly Landing Lanerie C J Kenneally Eddie 118 LA 15-1
2 2 Hooh Why Bejarano R Reavis Michael L 118 LA 12-1
3 3 Marketing Mix Leparoux J R Proctor Thomas F 120 LA 5-2
4 4 Tapitsfly Albarado R J Romans Dale 120 LA 5-1
5 5 Daisy Devine Graham J McKeever Andrew 123 LA 5-1
6 6 Annabel Lee Court J K Schwartz K David 118 LA 50-1
7 7 Aruna Dominguez R A Motion H Graham 118 LA 7-2
8 8 City to City Nakatani C S Hollendorfer Jerry 120 LA 15-1
9 9 La Reine Lionne Castellano J J Brown Chad C 118 L 6-1
10 10 Hungry Island Velazquez J R McGaughey III C R 118 L 6-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Daily Double / Pick 3 (Races 8-9-10) Pick 4 (Races 8-9-10-11)



9th (3:49) Humana Distaff S. (G1)

7 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 1 Magical Feeling Alvarado R Jr Iwinski Allen 120 LA 30-1
2 2 Fantasy of Flight Velazquez J R Terranova, II John P 118 LA 30-1
3 3 Sassy Image Albarado R J Romans Dale 118 LA 5-2
4 4 Salty Strike Leparoux J R McPeek Kenneth G 118 15-1
5 5 Mildly Offensive Rosario J Gaines Carla 118 L 20-1
6 6 Groupie Doll Maragh R Bradley William 123 L 5-2
7 7 Switch Smith M E Sadler John W 118 LA 2-1
8 8 Musical Romance Leyva J C Kaplan William A 123 L 4-1
9 9 Hot Summer Bejarano R Fawkes David 118 LA 20-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Daily Double / Pick 3 (Races 9-10-11)



10th (4:44) Woodford Reserve Turf Classic S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 1 Little Mike Bravo J Romans Dale 120 LA 8-1
2 2 Turallure Leparoux J R Lopresti Charles 120 L 5-2
3 3 Boxeur des Rues Gutierrez Mario O'Neill Doug 118 Blk-On LA 30-1
4 4 Get Stormy Dominguez R A Bush Thomas M 124 LA 6-1
5 5 Slim Shadey (GB) Flores D R Callaghan Simon 122 L 20-1
6 6 Doubles Partner Castellano J J Pletcher Todd A 120 LA 4-1
7 7 Data Link Solis A McGaughey III C R 124 L 4-1
8 8 Turbo Compressor Bejarano R Pletcher Todd A 118 LA 6-1
9 9 Al Khali Nakatani C S Mott William I 118 LA 15-1
10 10 Brilliant Speed Velazquez J R Albertrani Thomas 120 LA 12-1
11 11 Papaw Bodie Rosario J Maker Michael J 120 LA 30-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Daily Double / Pick 3 (Races 10-11-12) Pick 4 (Races 10-11-12-13)



11th (6:24) Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (G1)

1 1/4 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $2,000,000

1 1 Daddy Long Legs O'Donoghue C O'Brien Aidan P 126 LA 30-1
2 2 Optimizer Court J K Lukas D Wayne 126 LA 50-1
3 3 Take Charge Indy Borel C H Byrne Patrick B 126 L 15-1
4 4 Union Rags Leparoux J R Matz Michael R 126 LA 9-2
5 5 Dullahan Desormeaux K J Romans Dale 126 LA 8-1
6 6 Bodemeister Smith M E Baffert Bob 126 LA 4-1
7 7 Rousing Sermon Lezcano J Hollendorfer Jerry 126 LA 50-1
8 8 Creative Cause Rosario J Harrington Mike 126 L 12-1
9 9 Trinniberg Martinez W Parboo Bisnath 126 L 50-1
10 10 Daddy Nose Best Gomez G K Asmussen Steven M 126 LA 15-1
11 11 Alpha Maragh R McLaughlin Kiaran P 126 LA 15-1
12 12 Prospective Contreras L Casse Mark 126 L 30-1
13 13 Went the Day Well Velazquez J R Motion H Graham 126 Blk-On LA 20-1
14 14 Hansen Dominguez R A Maker Michael J 126 LA 10-1
15 15 Gemologist Castellano J J Pletcher Todd A 126 LA 6-1
16 16 El Padrino Bejarano R Pletcher Todd A 126 LA 20-1
17 17 Done Talking Russell S Smith Hamilton A 126 LA 50-1
18 18 Sabercat Nakatani C S Asmussen Steven M 126 LA 30-1
19 19 I'll Have Another Gutierrez Mario O'Neill Doug 126 LA 12-1
20 20 Liaison Garcia M Baffert Bob 126 Blk-On LA 50-1
21 AE My Adonis Trujillo E Breen Kelly J 126 LA 50-1

Exacta / Trifecta / Superfecta / Daily Double / Pick 3 (Races 11-12-13) Super Hi-5

Coach Pants 05-02-2012 04:16 PM

Take Charge Indy with a great draw.

3kings 05-02-2012 04:19 PM

That is a long time in the gate for Alpha.

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-02-2012 04:42 PM

maker looked abit tired of his owner..

RockHardTen1985 05-02-2012 04:47 PM

As for the race, my 2 A's draw fine. Take Charge Indy and Bode. Also loving Hansens draw. Definite back up.

Clip-Clop 05-02-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 857540)
That is a long time in the gate for Alpha.

It will make the loading process after him interesting. That behavior tends to be contagious. Otherwise a great spot.

Coach Pants 05-02-2012 04:53 PM

Well I've got my Z's now.

Kasept 05-02-2012 07:00 PM

Derby Card PP's up at DRF..

Danzig 05-02-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 857549)
As for the race, my 2 A's draw fine. Take Charge Indy and Bode. Also loving Hansens draw. Definite back up.

so you obviously didn't read beyers piece...

Danzig 05-02-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 857547)
maker looked abit tired of his owner..

there's been friction since the bluegrass bs. he was not happy with all the tail dying and then washing out. he felt, and rightly so, that it did the horse no favors at all.
i don't envy trainers who have to deal with folks who think the horse is a toy to be played with.

GPK 05-02-2012 07:56 PM

What a nice betting race the Woodford looks to be, again.:tro:

Danzig 05-02-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 857592)
What a nice betting race the Woodford looks to be, again.:tro:

get stormy! yes, more emotion than thought...but i like that horse.

GPK 05-02-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 857593)
get stormy! yes, more emotion than thought...but i like that horse.


I like him as well. Sadly, without the aid of any scratches, he won't make the lead, and his record when he doesn't make the lead isn't too hot.

zippyneedsawin 05-02-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 857593)
get stormy! yes, more emotion than thought...but i like that horse.


I do too, but little mike will most likely be on the lead which won't help him.

ateamstupid 05-02-2012 08:45 PM

Doubles Partner or Turbo Compressor.

somerfrost 05-02-2012 09:06 PM

Haven't studied PP's yet but based on what I've seen in the preps and the draw...Gemologist will take some beating and Creative Cause drew well.

GPK 05-02-2012 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 857614)
Doubles Partner or Turbo Compressor.

Joe, I gotta use Slim Shadey on at least one horizontal ticket. Will probably fool with him a little underneath in some exactas, too. Price will be too good and it seems Callaghan has him going in the right direction. Looks like he should be sitting a few lengths off the lead and may get an early jump. D Flo is more than capable on the grass. Shorter distance is a little bit of a concern, but I think he is worth taking a few stabs at.

dpkovalesky 05-02-2012 09:15 PM

I think Brilliant speed @12-1 is worth a few bucks. I just hope this year NBC has fixed the audio so you can't her Johnsons' call interfering with Cullmus' call.

Danzig 05-02-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin (Post 857596)
I do too, but little mike will most likely be on the lead which won't help him.

yeah, i know...

what about al khali?

ateamstupid 05-02-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 857637)
yeah, i know...

what about al khali?

He's out of his league IMO.

Clip-Clop 05-02-2012 10:42 PM

What a field for the Churchill downs. That is gonna be something. Go Shack!

Calzone Lord 05-03-2012 01:34 AM

If anyone is interested, my Kentucky Derby column and picks can be found at the following link:

http://www.goerie.com/article/201205...-has-red-flags

RockHardTen1985 05-03-2012 03:03 AM

Where's your pick?

jms62 05-03-2012 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 857593)
get stormy! yes, more emotion than thought...but i like that horse.

Little Mike and Get Stormy cancel each other out but I have seen Little Mike scratch out a few times. Sign me up for TuraLure and a bit of doubles Partner and Brilliant Speed

RockHardTen1985 05-03-2012 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 857692)
Little Mike and Get Stormy cancel each other out but I have seen Little Mike scratch out a few times. Sign me up for TuraLure and a bit of doubles Partner and Brilliant Speed

Tons of speed if it stays together.... don't forget turbo compressor.

Calzone Lord 05-03-2012 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 857689)
Where's your pick?

On the right hand side under the write-up for each horse. 5-10-8-6

RockHardTen1985 05-03-2012 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 857692)
Little Mike and Get Stormy cancel each other out but I have seen Little Mike scratch out a few times. Sign me up for TuraLure and a bit of doubles Partner and Brilliant Speed

Cool. I had it on my cell, when I went to full web view it came right up. Good read Doug. Good luck this weekend.

GPK 05-03-2012 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 857687)
If anyone is interested, my Kentucky Derby column and picks can be found at the following link:

http://www.goerie.com/article/201205...-has-red-flags

Good stuff, Doug. Thanks. Love the dig at Indian Charlie too.:D

Calzone Lord 05-03-2012 06:54 AM

Thanks. I snuck one in on Lukas as well 'Optimizer is trained by the Minimizer' ... if only PG '85 had a five-star lock!

3kings 05-03-2012 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 857694)
On the right hand side under the write-up for each horse. 5-10-8-6

Good luck. Do they put your daily PID picks on the website? I have looked a couple times and have not found them.

GPK 05-03-2012 10:19 AM

Sassy Image 5-2ML? Off a 8+ month layoff?

declansharbor 05-03-2012 10:23 AM

My question is how far do i pitch Bodemeister. He certainly wont be in the top two slots and im leaning towards a total toss but will feel like an idiot if he hangs on for a piece. I'll throw him in a few dollar tri's but will not include when im going heavy in keying my horse, i dont think.

VOL JACK 05-03-2012 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 857777)
My question is how far do i pitch Bodemeister. He certainly wont be in the top two slots and im leaning towards a total toss but will feel like an idiot if he hangs on for a piece. I'll throw him in a few dollar tri's but will not include when im going heavy in keying my horse, i dont think.

I agree, I said the same thing about Hansen today.

VOL JACK 05-03-2012 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 857713)
Thanks. I snuck one in on Lukas as well 'Optimizer is trained by the Minimizer' ... if only PG '85 had a five-star lock!

:tro:

slotdirt 05-03-2012 11:13 AM

I know nobody has mentioned weather yet, but it is supposed to be in the 90-ish range on Saturday. Nothing to add here except for the last six times the Derby was run on a day with a high temperature of 80 degrees or higher, a horse running 10th or worse after the first half ended up winning the race. Those years would be 2005 (Giacomo), 2001 (Monarchos), 2000 (Fusaichi Pegasus), 1996 (Grindstone), 1992 (Lil E. Tee), and 1991 (Strike the Gold). My trend ends there though as Winning Colors went wire-to-wire on a warm day in 1988 and Sunny's Halo was never more than a half length off the lead in 1983.

2 Dollar Bill 05-03-2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 857687)
If anyone is interested, my Kentucky Derby column and picks can be found at the following link:

http://www.goerie.com/article/201205...-has-red-flags

Nice Read, thanks for the quality stuff !:)

tiggerv 05-03-2012 01:12 PM

Beyer picks Bodemesiter

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...9yT_story.html

RockHardTen1985 05-03-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 857778)
I agree, I said the same thing about Hansen today.

He can win. I see him sitting 5th or 6th and if Bode does not fire Hansen will be taking the lead at the top of the stretch.....with TCI rolling late.

Calzone Lord 05-03-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 857715)
Good luck. Do they put your daily PID picks on the website? I have looked a couple times and have not found them.

Occasionally they will, but most often not.

They always put them in the Sports Section next to the Major League Baseball betting lines and they have one company sponcer the picks and another company sponcer the results.

High school football is covered like you wouldn't believe here. Horse racing is left competing with popular stuff here like college wrestling and hunting and fishing for newspaper space.

Erie has had one thoroughbred racetrack fail in the 1910's, another failed in the 1930's, Commedore Downs failed in the early 80's and Erie Downs failed in the mid 1980's. Presque Isle Downs is thoroughbred track attempt #5 here.

outofthebox 05-03-2012 02:36 PM

I just pray there is not another Aikenite on the card to spoil all my pick 3 and 4 tickets this year.....


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