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Kasept 03-25-2012 04:40 AM

Weekend Stakes Beyers
 
TP Spiral S (G3): Went the Day Well 92 (Proud Citizen) H. Motion/J. Velazquez
TP Bourbonette Oaks (G3): In Lingerie 91 (Empire Maker) T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez
TP Rushaway S: Flashy Dresser 85 (Flashy Bull) F. Seitz/L. Contreras
TP Hansel S: Hogy 89 (Offlee Wild) J. Berndt/T. Riggs

SUN Sunland Derby(G3): Daddy Nose Best 100 (Scat Daddy) S. Asmussen/J. Leparoux
SUN Sunland Park Oaks: Princess Arabella 99 (Any Given Saturday) B. Baffert/M. Garcia
SUN Harry Henson H: Twelve Twenty Two TBA (Kafwain) H. Dominguez/L. Contreras
SUN Bill Thomas Memorial S: Imco Spirit-IRE TBA (Invincible Spirit-IRE) H. Dominguez/L. Contreras

SA San Luis Rey S (G2): Bourbon Bay TBA (Sligo Bay-IRE) N. Drysdale/J. Rosario
SA Santa Ana S (G2): Vamo a Galupiar-CHI TBA (Proud Citizen) N. Drysdale M. Smith
SA Tokyo City Cup S (G3): Dynamic Host 94 (Dynaformer) A. Sherman/D. Flores

GP Pan American S (G2): Newsdad 99 (Arch) W. Mott/J. Leparoux

LRL Harrison E. Johnson Memorial S: Eighttofasttocatch 93 (Not For Love) T. Keefe/S. Russell

AQU Broadway S: Risky Rachel 93 (Limehouse) J. Coronel/C. Velasquez

OP Hot Springs S: City Sage 84 (City Place) K. Von Hemel/C. Borel

FG Happy Ticket S: (DH) Inspired 93 (Unbridled's Song) A. Iwinski/S. Bridgmohan & Speedacious 93 (Yankee Gentleman) B. Calhoun/M. Mena

Patrick333 03-25-2012 09:11 AM

92 for the Spiral seems a little low to me.

keithting 03-25-2012 09:29 AM

Steve:

Any Beyer on the 3-yo colt from the 10th at FG yesterday?

Keepin an eye on him....

Kasept 03-25-2012 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick333 (Post 848271)
92 for the Spiral seems a little low to me.

Based on what?

Kasept 03-25-2012 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keithting (Post 848275)
Steve:

Any Beyer on the 3-yo colt from the 10th at FG yesterday?

Keepin an eye on him....

Not as of 6:00a or so when I checked... Will see.



No. Still not done.

blackthroatedwind 03-25-2012 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick333 (Post 848271)
92 for the Spiral seems a little low to me.

If anything, it is too high.

Kasept 03-25-2012 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keithting (Post 848275)
Steve:

Any Beyer on the 3-yo colt from the 10th at FG yesterday?

Keepin an eye on him....

101. Gorder staying one turn. Told Marcus Hersh Derby Trial is target.

RockHardTen1985 03-25-2012 03:39 PM

I wonder what Stirred Up will run tonight?

knickslions2 03-25-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 848380)
I wonder what Stirred Up will run tonight?

It will be lower then the 4 (isn't he clever) :)

Kasept 03-25-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 848380)
I wonder what Stirred Up will run tonight?

Looks like he paired up that 82.

knickslions2 03-25-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 848443)
Looks like he paired up that 82.

Darn 4 couldnt hang on with the perfect setup

NTamm1215 03-25-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 848445)
Darn 4 couldnt hang on with the perfect setup

Perfect setup? The 4 made a wildly premature move into an obviously collapsing pace. Daddy Nose Best had a perfect setup and capitalized. The 4 ran a HUGE race.

Luis Contreras is abysmal. He consistently loses ground on both surfaces at GP at an alarming rate.

Kasept 03-26-2012 05:15 AM

SUN Sunland Derby(G3): Daddy Nose Best 100 (Scat Daddy) S. Asmussen/J. Leparoux
SUN Sunland Park Oaks: Princess Arabella 86 (Any Given Saturday) B. Baffert/M. Garcia
SUN Harry Henson H: Twelve Twenty Two TBA (Kafwain) H. Dominguez/L. Contreras
SUN Bill Thomas Memorial S: Imco Spirit-IRE TBA (Invincible Spirit-IRE) H. Dominguez/L. Contreras


SA San Luis Rey S (G2): Bourbon Bay TBA (Sligo Bay-IRE) N. Drysdale/J. Rosario
SA Santa Ana S (G2): Vamo a Galupiar-CHI TBA (Proud Citizen) N. Drysdale M. Smith

Indian Charlie 03-26-2012 09:40 AM

How about Counselor Cabot in the 8th at GP and Aubby K. in the 9th at GP, both on Sunday?

Kasept 03-26-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 848507)
How about Counselor Cabot in the 8th at GP and Aubby K. in the 9th at GP, both on Sunday?

I know Aubby got a 100.

Kasept 03-26-2012 10:40 AM

100 Beyer for Daddy Nose Best, 99 for Isn't He Clever in Sunday's Sunland Derby. 86 for Princess Arabella taking the Oaks..

hockey2315 03-26-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 848513)
100 Beyer for Daddy Nose Best, 99 for Isn't He Clever in Sunday's Sunland Derby. 86 for Princess Arabella taking the Oaks..

The Moss Pace Figures for the Derby seem way off.

blackthroatedwind 03-26-2012 12:22 PM

Considering how high the numbers always seem to be from Sunland, I think Princess Arabella comes out very suspect going forward....not that she already wasn't.

asudevil 03-26-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 848541)
Considering how high the numbers always seem to be from Sunland, I think Princess Arabella comes out very suspect going forward....not that she already wasn't.

IMO Eden's Moon will be much better.

parsixfarms 03-26-2012 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 848543)
IMO Eden's Moon will be much better.

Can Eden's Moon get a more favorable set-up than she received last time? She seems iffy at 9F in a race with a reasonable pace.

asudevil 03-26-2012 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 848551)
Can Eden's Moon get a more favorable set-up than she received last time? She seems iffy at 9F in a race with a reasonable pace.

Set-Up?? She was a length in front the entire way around. At the top of the lane, Reneesgotzip comes up beside her, and catches 2 whips in the face from Garcia. I'm far from a pedigree maven, but a Malibu Moon (A.P. Indy) filly, out of a Giant's Causeway mare is going to have issues at 9f??

blackthroatedwind 03-26-2012 01:52 PM

Now I'm confused....didn't Princess Arabella have an 86 when I made my prior post?

parsixfarms 03-26-2012 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 848560)
Set-Up?? She was a length in front the entire way around. At the top of the lane, Reneesgotzip comes up beside her, and catches 2 whips in the face from Garcia. I'm far from a pedigree maven, but a Malibu Moon (A.P. Indy) filly, out of a Giant's Causeway mare is going to have issues at 9f??

In a fairly non-descript field to start, her main competition, Reneesgotzip, blew the first turn, and Eden's Moon was able to set a relatively unpressured pace through what were the slowest fractions of all two-turn races run at Santa Anita on March 3.

She's got an awesome pedigree (family of Paradise Creek), but Eden's Moon couldn't have had things any easier, and the final margin was more a function of Reneesgotzip giving it through the lane up than Eden's Moon drawing off powerfully. Dynamics are likely to be far different in the Kentucky Oaks; that's why I said she seemed an iffy proposition there.

Danzig 03-26-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 848608)
Now I'm confused....didn't Princess Arabella have an 86 when I made my prior post?

yes. it's not in the top post, but if you look further down in the thread you'll see

SUN Sunland Park Oaks: Princess Arabella 86 (Any Given Saturday) B. Baffert/M. Garcia

NTamm1215 03-26-2012 06:14 PM

Princess Arabella is a slightly inferior version of Joyful Victory 2011. She's just about as dressed up.

Indian Charlie 03-26-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 848703)
Princess Arabella is a slightly inferior version of Joyful Victory 2011. She's just about as dressed up.

I feel like I really have not learned anything about her in her second and third starts.

I do believe she'll do better going long, however.

Wayyyy too early to simply say she's overrated.

NTamm1215 03-26-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 848707)
I feel like I really have not learned anything about her in her second and third starts.

I do believe she'll do better going long, however.

Wayyyy too early to simply say she's overrated.

I'll bet that she's overrated. I could easily be wrong. It happens the majority of the time.

cmorioles 03-26-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 848707)
Wayyyy too early to simply say she's overrated.

Not if you are a bettor. It doesn't pay to wait.

Indian Charlie 03-26-2012 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 848731)
Not if you are a bettor. It doesn't pay to wait.

Good point!

I didn't take Nick's post that way however.


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