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Kasept 06-29-2011 02:26 PM

7/2-3 (MTH): United Nations (G1), Salvator Mile (G3); Jersey Shore (G3)
 
10th (5:28) Salvator Mile S. (G3)

1 Mile | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Rule Gomez G K 117 L
2 Morning Line Castro E 121 L
3 Soaring Empire Lezcano J 121 L
4 Kensei Prado E S 117 L
5 Motovato Bravo J 119 L
6 Cactus Charlie Uske S 117 L
7 Friesan Fire Saez G 117 L



11th (5:59) United Nations S. (G1)

1 3/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Bourbon Bay Garcia Alan 120 L
2 Teaks North Castro E 123 L
3 Eldaafer Lopez P 118 L
4 Pulsion Hill C 118 L
5 Sleepless Knight Lezcano J 118 L
6 Bold Hawk Trujillo E 118 L
7 Stacelita (FR) Bravo J 118
8 Belle Watling (CHI) Prado E S 113 L
9 General Perfect Uske S 118 L
10 Chinchon (IRE) Gomez G K 118

A-Coupled: Pulsion and Belle Watling (CHI)

ateamstupid 06-29-2011 03:03 PM

That's a pretty strong Sal Mile.

Clip-Clop 06-29-2011 03:12 PM

Fantastic groups for both. Looking forward to the return of another cursed Derby choice of mine.

parsixfarms 06-29-2011 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 787769)
That's a pretty strong Sal Mile.

Is the Salvator Mile a "Win and You're In" race? If not, pretty surprising that this two-turn, Grade III race worth $200K came up stronger than a one-turn, Grade II Suburban worth $300K. Or did Rodman and Friend or Foe, who is conspicuous by his absence in the Suburban, scare them away?

Clip-Clop 06-29-2011 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 787776)
Is the Salvator Mile a "Win and You're In" race? If not, pretty surprising that this two-turn, Grade III race worth $200K came up stronger than a one-turn, Grade II Suburban worth $300K. Or did Rodman and Friend or Foe, who is conspicuous by his absence in the Suburban, scare them away?

I think it is a W&I race.

gamblin4ever 06-29-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 787776)
Is the Salvator Mile a "Win and You're In" race? If not, pretty surprising that this two-turn, Grade III race worth $200K came up stronger than a one-turn, Grade II Suburban worth $300K. Or did Rodman and Friend or Foe, who is conspicuous by his absence in the Suburban, scare them away?

The Salvator Mile isn't a win and your in race according to the BC schedule on the site. But, it still a very good betting race, that should be a W&I race if it keeps getting fields like this one.

GPK 06-29-2011 06:49 PM

General Perfect? Really?:wf

randallscott35 06-29-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 787843)
General Perfect? Really?:wf

Stranger Things

GPK 06-29-2011 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 787877)
Stranger Things

Gone are the days of English Channel setting the track record during this race while kicking Cacique's ass:D

I can still picture that $100 check with the words "cacique sucks" printed in the memo line:$:

randallscott35 06-29-2011 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 787880)
Gone are the days of English Channel setting the track record during this race while kicking Cacique's ass:D

I can still picture that $100 check with the words "cacique sucks" printed in the memo line:$:

Honest to a fault. Yet unappreciated on DT. Shame.

ateamstupid 06-30-2011 12:21 AM

I'm sick of seeing these damn avatars with babies in them. Hot chicks or GTFO.

Calzone Lord 06-30-2011 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 787958)
I'm sick of seeing these damn avatars with babies in them. Hot chicks or GTFO.

Well said, sir.

Indian Charlie 06-30-2011 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 787958)
I'm sick of seeing these damn avatars with babies in them. Hot chicks or GTFO.

My avatar is the lead pedophile in the world's largest body of pedophiles, is that close enough?

Oh, wait, I forgot, my avatar is Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars. Nevermind.

Dahoss 06-30-2011 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 787958)
I'm sick of seeing these damn avatars with babies in them. Hot chicks or GTFO.


:tro: :tro::tro::tro:

Calzone Lord 06-30-2011 02:22 AM

Hit Girl is the first 11-year-old I've ever fallen in love with ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbqae_ani3A

Indian Charlie 06-30-2011 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 787985)
Hit Girl is the first 11-year-old girl I've ever fallen in love with ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbqae_ani3A

FTFY

GoIrish 06-30-2011 08:49 AM

Wow, Fresian Fire... was wondering what became of him.

I love the General in a 5.5f turf sprint, with Pablo up. But 11f and Uske :confused: Yeah, I guess, stranger things have happened. I better put a couple bucks down in case he gets a soft pace and wires the field at 20-1.

Kasept 06-30-2011 04:00 PM

SUNDAY 9th (4:58) Jersey Shore S. (G3)

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Zero Rate Policy Marquez C H Jr 121 L
2 Parent's Honor Rose J 117 L
3 C J Russell Garcia Alan 117 L
4 Royal Currier Serpa A 119 L
5 Flashpoint Velasquez C 123 L
6 Cal Nation Decarlo C P 117 L
7 Chipshot Trujillo E 117 L



SUNDAY 10th (5:28) Miss Liberty S.

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $75,000

1 Box Office Queen Rose J 117 L
2 Champagnelifestyle (GB) Hill C 117 L
3 Bella d'Oro Trujillo E 117 L
4 Gypsy's Warning (SAF) Garcia Alan 117 L
5 Even Sweeter Pimentel J 117 L
6 Marquet Madness Velasquez C 123 L
7 Obsequious Marquez C H Jr 117 L
8 In the Rough Serpa A 117 L
9 Romacaca Lopez P 123 L
10 Aquitaine Valdivia J Jr 117 L
11 Mystic Miracle Fragoso P 117 L
12 Golden Galleon Decarlo C P 117 L

Fulla Sheets 07-01-2011 09:28 AM

The Jersey Shore looks like a fun race.

hockey2315 07-01-2011 10:15 AM

Friesan Fire has obviously been vastly overrated throughout his career, but would it really be that shocking if he resurfaced as a different horse like the rest of the Jones move-ups?

MaTH716 07-01-2011 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 788238)
Friesan Fire has obviously been vastly overrated throughout his career, but would it really be that shocking if he resurfaced as a different horse like the rest of the Jones move-ups?

Well he has the right style for that track.
Got to figure that he will be on or near the lead.

Calzone Lord 07-01-2011 10:42 AM

I think FF is unlikely even if Jones gets a reversal.

It's Soaring Empire or Zito. The UN is one of the two Euro's.

Just looked over about 25 races for tomorrow - other than Vukovar in the 4th at Parx - I see nothing I'm that excited about.

hockey2315 07-01-2011 10:44 AM

I think there's a lot not to like about the two Euros in the UN. . . They'll both be very overbet.

hockey2315 07-01-2011 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 788241)
Just looked over about 25 races for tomorrow - other than Vukovar in the 4th at Parx - I see nothing I'm that excited about.

I see the pedigree appeal, but what else do you like about her. . . Did she work at a sale and then get withdrawn? Don't see any sales records for her on bris.

Calzone Lord 07-01-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 788243)
I see the pedigree appeal, but what else do you like about her. . . Did she work at a sale and then get withdrawn? Don't see any sales records for her on bris.

Yeah, she worked pretty fast in blinkers. She's fast.

I love the weak worktab with only 3 blah works showing.

Wish the horse was drawn outside - and wish it didn't have OO Castillo because he will chicken sh!t it up if the horse breaks slow... but horse will be fine if it breaks well.

Calzone Lord 07-01-2011 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 788242)
I think there's a lot not to like about the two Euros in the UN. . . They'll both be very overbet.

The Americans are dog crap.

The filly Bravo is on, she has several races on her form that should see her toy with these horses. I don't get bringing her over unless she's doing well.

hockey2315 07-01-2011 11:08 AM

Obviously Stacelita's best form is too good for these--isn't that how it is w/ every Euro? Still, though, I'm not sure she's the same horse she once was and the trainer is 0/19 in the U.S. (hit the board a number of times, though). I'm a total sucker, so I'm giving Bold Hawk one more chance on firm turf this time.

Calzone Lord 07-01-2011 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 788247)
Obviously Stacelita's best form is too good for these--isn't that how it is w/ every Euro? Still, though, I'm not sure she's the same horse she once was and the trainer is 0/19 in the U.S. (hit the board a number of times, though). I'm a total sucker, so I'm giving Bold Hawk one more chance on firm turf this time.

Look at her 2010 come-back race. Look at her 2nd run.

Clip-Clop 07-01-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 788238)
Friesan Fire has obviously been vastly overrated throughout his career, but would it really be that shocking if he resurfaced as a different horse like the rest of the Jones move-ups?

This is a good place to start, even if only competitive with ML he would be showing he can do something.

NTamm1215 07-01-2011 11:29 AM

I was waiting to see if it was written anywhere, but is it possible Martin Schwartz is going to turn Stacelita over to Chad Brown? This is kind of the same thing he did with Angara, Gorella, and Zagora.

hockey2315 07-01-2011 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 788249)
Look at her 2010 come-back race. Look at her 2nd run.

Ya, but that comeback was also vs. a much tougher field and in her backyard. Obviously she can improve second off the lay-off, but she's a 5-year-old mare who didn't really improve from three to four. There's no way you're supposed to take 5-2 on her here or whatever she'll be. Chinchon's race here last year would obviously be enough to win, but he's done a TON of traveling recently and I don't think the race sets up all that well for him.

blackthroatedwind 07-01-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 788252)
I was waiting to see if it was written anywhere, but is it possible Martin Schwartz is going to turn Stacelita over to Chad Brown? This is kind of the same thing he did with Angara, Gorella, and Zagora.

I assume he is.

Left Bank 07-01-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 787958)
I'm sick of seeing these damn avatars with babies in them. Hot chicks or GTFO.

:tro::tro::tro::tro:

VOL JACK 07-01-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 788373)
:tro::tro::tro::tro:

Why I am here

hockey2315 07-02-2011 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 788244)
Yeah, she worked pretty fast in blinkers. She's fast.

I love the weak worktab with only 3 blah works showing.

Wish the horse was drawn outside - and wish it didn't have OO Castillo because he will chicken sh!t it up if the horse breaks slow... but horse will be fine if it breaks well.

Good call

Calzone Lord 07-02-2011 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 788459)
Good call

Thanks. I knew she was going to murder them when she broke well.

At least we got $23 and change in the DD with a Juan Carlos trained even money winner.


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