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my miss storm cat 09-01-2006 02:09 PM

THE star of 2007 will be.....
 
Just for fun, let's make a prediction.

My choice for up-and-coming monster? The Godolphin horse, Librettist. Entered in the Prix du Moulin on Sunday and possible for the BC Mile (along with Iffraaj), he's won 6 of 7 now..... looked absolutely stunning.

Note the long layoff..... missed over a year.

A star.

LIBRETTIST (USA) 4 b.c
DANZIG (USA) – MYSTERIAL (USA) (ALLEGED (USA))
Timeform Rating: 124

Performances Distance Going Value Details Finished Weight Jockey Tfig Trat
13/08/06 DEAUVILLE 1m Soft (T) £231,649 1 of 10 9-04 L. Dettori 124
23/07/06 MAISONS-LAFFITTE 1m Gd/Frm (T) £27,586 Group 3 1 of 8 9-01 L. Dettori 118
01/07/06 WINDSOR 1m67y Gd/Frm (T) £15,898 Listed 1 of 5 9-03 L. Dettori 97 112+
07/06/06 NOTTINGHAM 1m54y Good (T) £12,464 (G ) (Class 2) 1 of 8 9-01 L. Dettori 76 117+
16/10/04 NEWMARKET (ROWLEY) 7f Soft (T) £152,772 Group 1 5 of 9 9-00 Kerrin McEvoy 112 112
08/09/04 DONCASTER 7f Gd/Frm (T) £6,432 (S ) (Class 2) 1 of 5 9-01 L. Dettori 106 109+
16/07/04 NEWMARKET (JULY) 7f Good (T) £5,031 (M ) (Class D) 1 of 11 9-00 L. Dettori 74 93+
6 Wins From 7 Runs Total Win Prize Money £299,060.00

Bold Reasoning 09-01-2006 02:23 PM

I think Bernardini will run next year, so I choose him for Star of 2007.:)

Bold Brooklynite 09-01-2006 03:47 PM

Is this some kind of trick question?

Everyone knows it'll be ... Mayan King.

Bold Brooklynite 09-01-2006 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter
Mayan King

See?

This is a man who really knows his horses.

GPK 09-02-2006 09:51 AM

Point Ashley

brockguy 09-02-2006 09:52 AM

Visionario - an Aga Khan 2yo, runs at the weekend... could be a special one!

Danzig 09-02-2006 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Point Ashley

you may be right!

Nostradamus 09-02-2006 10:20 AM

Man in Havana

Betsy 09-02-2006 10:54 AM

Bernardini

my miss storm cat 09-02-2006 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
Visionario - an Aga Khan 2yo, runs at the weekend... could be a special one!

I've heard a little about him..... have never heard of any of the other runners in the field though.

Let us know how he does and if he looks anywhere near as good as Holy Roman Emperor. :cool: :)

2Hot4TV 09-02-2006 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy
Bernardini

Tunnel Vision

my miss storm cat 09-03-2006 11:13 AM

Brockguy.....

Both our "stars of 2007" won today.....:)

brockguy 09-03-2006 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Brockguy.....

Both our "stars of 2007" won today.....:)

Girl, they could well be the stars of 2006 as well!! Good job!

my miss storm cat 09-04-2006 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
Girl, they could well be the stars of 2006 as well!! Good job!

They could well be!

Librettist is now pointed to the QE II and the BC Mile..... let me know where yours is heading.

Nice pick! :)

brockguy 09-04-2006 08:45 AM

Visionario is going for the G1 2yo race on Arc day - used to be the Grand Criterium, new name now..

King Glorious 09-04-2006 12:46 PM

Discreet or Bernardini, whichever runs next year. Also, watch for the return of Your Tent or Mine. He'll be a monster.

Revolution 09-04-2006 01:02 PM

bright one and circular quay are two horses with big futures.

gallant bloom 09-09-2006 08:31 PM

four sins
miss beatrix

Danzig 09-09-2006 08:38 PM

well, my picks so far are

point ashley--was lucky enough to see her break her maiden, which kev and i drooled over. said than she was one to watch, her del mar debutante only re-inforced my faith!

pine island--by arch, but more importantly, out of the full sister to pleasant home, winner of the '05 distaff. hopefully she stays in training--dinny has enough broodmares! lol

circular quay--after seeing horses such as point given, macho uno, and afleet alex to name a few, we all know that not ALL two year old stars fade out at three. his bashford was good, his hopeful was outstanding!

showing up. dual surface runner. look out!

aragorn--will repeat as bc mile winner next year! :D

my miss storm cat 09-10-2006 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gallant bloom
four sins
miss beatrix

How about Nell Gwyn?

my miss storm cat 09-14-2006 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
Visionario is going for the G1 2yo race on Arc day - used to be the Grand Criterium, new name now..

Who else is pointed, Brockguy?

Librettist is going to the QE II next..... :cool:

Cunningham Racing 09-14-2006 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning
I think Bernardini will run next year, so I choose him for Star of 2007.:)


yep..........

zippyneedsawin 09-14-2006 11:31 AM

Spooky Mulder.. he's always around!!! ;)

Bold Brooklynite 09-14-2006 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
Spooky Mulder.. he's always around!!! ;)

Now you're talking sense ...

... hope he can get to the magic 30 victory mark.

brockguy 09-14-2006 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Who else is pointed, Brockguy?

Librettist is going to the QE II next..... :cool:


dont know who else yet girl, we'll see what happens in the National Stakes at the weekend. I have a feeling Trinity College will go to france, but I wouldnt be surprised if the race cuts up a little and there might only be 4 or 5 in it!!

slotdirt 09-14-2006 11:48 AM

Sun King!!!

Cajungator26 09-14-2006 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
Sun King!!!

Are you being serious, slot? Because I honestly think he's a nice horse who's coming into himself a bit later than most.

cakes44 09-14-2006 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious
Discreet or Bernardini, whichever runs next year. Also, watch for the return of Your Tent or Mine. He'll be a monster.

I thought Your Tent or Mine was retired. If not, Drysdale will just work him out until he's dead-fit, then retire him. That's kind of his thing.

my miss storm cat 09-14-2006 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
dont know who else yet girl, we'll see what happens in the National Stakes at the weekend. I have a feeling Trinity College will go to france, but I wouldnt be surprised if the race cuts up a little and there might only be 4 or 5 in it!!

Thanks for the news. :)

* * *

Hey Bold...

I know how much you love Turkey so found this for you. Maybe you can go with one of these.....

Raiders repelled
(no author listed)

TURKEY
Momtic was no match for the locals in the closing stages of the Group 2 Topkapi Trophy at Veliefendi, Istanbul, on Sunday. But, although he could do no better than sixth, the only British runner on international day kept on gamely to be beaten under three lengths, writes Alastair Donald.

Ribella, third in the race two years ago and a regular visitor to the Dubai International Carnival, landed the spoils by a neck from Kaneko, with Kurtiniadis third ahead of the odds-on Sabirli.

Buffymommy 09-14-2006 12:12 PM

You all are going to realize that Gorella is the bomb! She is going to awe you guys the rest of this season and DAZZLE even more next year!

Then she can go retire and make some awesome babies!

kentuckyrosesinmay 09-14-2006 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffymommy
You all are going to realize that Gorella is the bomb! She is going to awe you guys the rest of this season and DAZZLE even more next year!

Then she can go retire and make some awesome babies!


There ya go...Here is a horse that I think most root for! I think she is outstanding too Buffy!

This is a really bold prediction...

Nobiz Like Showbiz, but don't expect to see him in the Juvy race at Churchill Downs this fall. He'll most likely have his coming out party early next spring.

Sun King is coming into himself. I think that showing Up will be a lot better horse next year.

Bernardini and Discreet Cat are monsters.

And a lower level Grade I/Grade II horse who we will love is Lawyer Ron.

My predicition is that all of these horses mentioned in this thread will be the starz of next year.

I'm going to really go out on a limb here...
The horse of the year will be either Nobiz like Shobiz or Discreet Cat. Nobiz like Shobiz will win the Kentucky Derby. The unraced Hip #8 that I keep talking about is going to make some major noise as well if he makes it to the track.

slotdirt 09-14-2006 12:38 PM

Man, do I feel out of it right now. I'm completely clueless when it comes to 2YO's this year. My TC hangover is lasting longer than it should.

kentuckyrosesinmay 09-14-2006 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
Man, do I feel out of it right now. I'm completely clueless when it comes to 2YO's this year. My TC hangover is lasting longer than it should.


I think someone else posted a thread on Nobiz Like Shobiz when he won because it was so freaking awesome.

Nobiz like Shobiz broke his maiden (also his first start) in the 2nd race at Belmont on the 9th of this month. He is trained by Barclay Tagg (my fav. trainer!). He beat Bullara by 10 lengths without even being hand ridden down the stretch (although I think that the Cornelio used the stick to get by Bullara at the top of the stretch). He ran the mile in 135.26, which was the second fastest out of four at the distance on that day. It was unbelievable for a first time out. He is a beautiful animal and has such a pretty way of going. He impressed me a lot more than Tiz Wonderful or Prime Ruler did in their maidens.

Hip #8 is located in the March sale at barretts.com. of this year. He is a very beautiful moving Orientate who is fast, fast, fast.

oracle80 09-14-2006 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I think someone else posted a thread on Nobiz Like Shobiz when he won because it was so freaking awesome.

Nobiz like Shobiz broke his maiden (also his first start) in the 2nd race at Belmont on the 9th of this month. He is trained by Barclay Tagg (my fav. trainer!). He beat Bullara by 10 lengths without even being hand ridden down the stretch (although I think that the Cornelio used the stick to get by Bullara at the top of the stretch). He ran the mile in 135.26, which was the second fastest out of four at the distance on that day. It was unbelievable for a first time out. He is a beautiful animal and has such a pretty way of going. He impressed me a lot more than Tiz Wonderful or Prime Ruler did in their maidens.

Hip #8 is located in the March sale at barretts.com. of this year. He is a very beautiful moving Orientate who is fast, fast, fast.

I really wasn't blown away as everyone else was by Nobiz. I thought he passed a horse who was gasping and it made him look a lot better than he was. Behind the gasper who held 2nd place was absolutely nothing.
I'd really have to see him do something again before I went nuts over him. Call me skeptical.

kentuckyrosesinmay 09-14-2006 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
I really wasn't blown away as everyone else was by Nobiz. I thought he passed a horse who was gasping and it made him look a lot better than he was. Behind the gasper who held 2nd place was absolutely nothing.
I'd really have to see him do something again before I went nuts over him. Call me skeptical.

Well I'm taking a stand. It was his first start, and it was a mile long first start at that. Most start at five or six furlongs. He looked a little green to me when he went to pass Bullara at the top of the stretch because it looked like he hesitated for a split second, he was lugging in a little halfway through the stetch, and it took him just a little longer to switch leads than you would have like to have seen, but other than that he was very professional. He rated very nicely and is not going to have any problems stretching out. Cornelio quit riding him halfway through the stretch as to not fully blow him out. For a first time out, he couldn't have been more impressive to me and could have won by fifteen if Cornelio would have kept riding him. What I saw was an extremely talented animal who is probably the most powerful and beautiful moving two year old that I have seen in a race this year. He will only improve off of that start. If I'm wrong, then so be it, but I don't think that I am going to be. Now, granted the KD statement was strong, but I just thought it would be fun if I predicted the KD winner this far ahead (It probably won't ever happen). If the colt is as talented as I think he is, I wouldn't want him to be in the hands of any other trainer. I trust Barclay to get him there.

oracle80 09-14-2006 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Well I'm taking a stand. It was his first start, and it was a mile long first start at that. Most start at five or six furlongs. He looked a little green to me when he went to pass Bullara at the top of the stretch because it looked like he hesitated for a split second, he was lugging in a little halfway through the stetch, and it took him just a little longer to switch leads than you would have like to have seen, but other than that he was very professional. He rated very nicely and is not going to have any problems stretching out. Cornelio quit riding him halfway through the stretch as to not fully blow him out. For a first time out, he couldn't have been more impressive to me and could have won by fifteen if Cornelio would have kept riding him. What I saw was an extremely talented animal who is probably the most powerful and beautiful moving two year old that I have seen in a race this year. He will only improve off of that start. If I'm wrong, then so be it, but I don't think that I am going to be. Now, granted the KD statement was strong, but I just thought it would be fun if I predicted the KD winner this far ahead (It probably won't ever happen). If the colt is as talented as I think he is, I wouldn't want him to be in the hands of any other trainer. I trust Barclay to get him there.

Noone has to tell me about Barclay Tagg. Its why I laugh at Nostradamus so hard when he thinks he is telling us something that we don't know.
I was scoring on horses like Grab the Green and Royal Mountain Inn back when he was watching Sesame Street.
Hes a great trainer.
I'm not saying his race wasn't very good because it was. But I thought he had an ideal scenario behind some duelers whose quality I question and simply wanna see him do it again before becoming a believer that he will succeed at the highest level.

kentuckyrosesinmay 09-14-2006 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
Noone has to tell me about Barclay Tagg. Its why I laugh at Nostradamus so hard when he thinks he is telling us something that we don't know.
I was scoring on horses like Grab the Green and Royal Mountain Inn back when he was watching Sesame Street.
Hes a great trainer.
I'm not saying his race wasn't very good because it was. But I thought he had an ideal scenario behind some duelers whose quality I question and simply wanna see him do it again before becoming a believer that he will succeed at the highest level.

Yes, I can agree with that (And I know that you know this stuff. It's just that some that read this stuff aren't as knowledgable and I don't want to lose anyone because a lot of people read these posts besides those in the know). He did get an ideal setup, and I also question the quality of those horses. But, he is going to be the kind of horse that puts himself in a position to win (whether he does or not) in every race because he has an ideal running style. I will say that there is a 99% chance that the horse will win by open lenghts in his next start, even if he steps up in competition a little bit. I just see something in Nobiz like Shobiz. I think it is the fact that he is very mature looking despite his age. He looked a lot more mature than the horses that he was racing against in that field.

slotdirt 09-14-2006 02:10 PM

I was serious about Sun King, assuming he runs. He's improving, and if they can ever figure out if he's a closing sprinter or a miler or whatever, he'll be in a good spot no matter where they place him. Aside from that race very early in the year, he's been well placed throughout 06.

ateamstupid 09-14-2006 02:18 PM

Discreet Cat.


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