Jazil=No Chance
 

According to the DRF, he's going to be closer to the pace, I agree with Mcglaughlin that he will be closer, because the pace will likely be softer, but sounds like they are going to put him even closer to the pace. I can't believe they are going to take the horse out of his game, that's usually disastrous. I think he will take some money, so that's a good thing...

Mwind....please dont sign all your posts as "aka Mwind"....life was so much more enjoyable when I thought you were this hot ass blonde chick....:(

lol! Funny GPK...

In my opinion if I am wrong then oh well. Steppen has a better shot @ being closer to the pace on saturday for a closer, judging by his work. It's a matter on whether Pietz gives the instructions that way or if Robby A. thinks he is going to be be Pat Day...The usual take back. Just my opinion

The only reason Jazil will be closer to the pace is because they'll try to slow it on the front end to 50 and change for the half...Jz has no early speed whatsoever.

he may not have any early speed, but you need to watch the wood again,
see the horsie run,
see the horsie run fast at belmont,
see the horsie run fast at belmont and almost catch the winner in the 9th furlong.

The Wood wasn't run at Belmont. It was at Aqueduct. :confused:

I know I said he'd be closer because of the pace, but Mcglaughlin is saying they are going to be closer, because they are put him closer. I think that's a mistake to take a horse out of it's game.

Also, just because a horse is a stone closer, doesn't make him more effective at a longer distance, it tends to dull their kick if anything(Sun King has become a better closer at shorter distances as an example). I think we may have seen this comparing the Wood race to the Derby and I think he'll be less effective in the Belmont.

If they're going to try and change his running style, I agree that it doesn't make much sense. I'm not going to play him either way. I made up my mind to stick with Steppenwolfer as I did in the derby.

If it rains and the track comes up sloppy, watch out because Jazil will really be flying at the end. Steppenwolfer is the more consistent closer of the two, but Jazil may be more talented, and just hasn't reached his potential yet. We shall see. I think that both of these horses will finish ahead of Bob and John.

That works SCREAMS to me that they want him sitting 5th or 6th

for some reason in the last week i keep confusing the two.

Hey Secretariat. I PMed you. Ignore the last message I sent you though. Am I right on one of those?

are you right on one of what ??

i do not follow, you hace confused me

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Nevermind.

Well,again I don't understand why somebody would start a thread to say a horse can't do something.All I can tell you is this little horse will not be going up and down.He will not be going sideways.He will be doing the same thing he has been doing(coming forward,coming forward,coming forward.)So,whoever is a quitter is gunna get found out.He may not be able to tag them all,but he will get by as many as he possibly can.So,I can tell you right now that if you hang ,he is gunna get your spot.He isn't gunna quit.Isn't gunna hang.He is just gunna keep coming for the best spot he can get.This is no quitter,and he sure does have some chance to win it.He is not like you think he is.He doesn't need a quick pace.Most raters will not keep persevering when their kick isn't particularly working that well.Case in point is the Wood.He is well beaten in there,and most raters would not have kept trying like he did.He is gunna get the best finish he can.Don't count on him quitting,cuz it ain't gunna happen.

i don't like jazil to win, but i would use him in any supers....
i think to say no chance is incorrect. all of them have a chance, just some have a better chance than others.

My point is why take him out of his game, this is not to bash on the horse, but why not let him run the way he has been. He's run 2nd and 4th in 2 Grade 1's running this way, why make him do something that might compromise his finish. The race looks to very soft on the pace, but it's a strange race and who knows, maybe it gets hot up front and he would have a chance. I don't like the pick against a horse posts either, but this post is about taking a horse out of it's game.

My pick is High Finance, he's won over the track ran into 2 monsters and he might be the likely speed, if he's left alone long enough, I believe he gets it done. I'll also use Blue Grass Cat and Deputy Glitters in P3's and P4's.

your points are well taken mwindu. again, if it ain't broke don't fix it. however, as horses mature, sometimes you can get them to change their style a bit. if he picks up a piece either way, than they didn't err.
we'll see on saturday.

im thinking with scuds ....and kieran could be pulling the publics leg..i see him off the pace and picking them up after the mind blowing fractions on the front end..when you take 10 horses sombody will take the lead and then the second..next thing you know there going 46 /109...oops here comes jazil

He wasn't running that fast, the winner came home in a click over 14.

Can we please,pllease ,please stop writing that they came home slow in the Wood. Guess what..He is a very nice little horse.I have tried to tell everyone this,but most people just had something against him.All he has ever done is keep coming..keep coming..keep coming..

I noticed that the first three horses in the Belmont had white bridles. Right? I forgot to record it, so I can't watch it agin, though!!!!!!! Can anyone explain this to me????

yes, all three wearing white. all three trained by mcglaughlin and pletcher, both former assistants to dwl. lukas always had his horses wear white so he could find them easier on the track. they do the same as tribute to the guy who taught them much of what they know.

so, even with all the records, all the wins and eclipses, lukas' greatest legacy will be those who learned from him.

Yep, I was definetely wrong!

I never said he wasn't a nice horse. Kiaran should thank Oracles favorite little jock Gomez for this one, never would have know they would have gone that fast, but Gomez is a bone head. My buddy liked him, so we used him in the pik 4 and hit it, so I could care less if he won or not. He's a better horse than that hog Giacomo, so good for him, and I don't care that I was wrong...

Can you tell me how this guy Milton is now all of the sudden a good pitcher? I mean if you're a Reds fan.Last year he was more of a Triple A pitcher getting beat up in the majors.

thats the post of the year....lol

You gotta believe in your picks!! Nice job,Scuds,Hooves and the rest who had JAZIL!!

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I think Barbaro would have beaten all these horses today! I'll bet there are a few here that agree with me! :)

I toteally agree 100%. Barbaro won the derby by many lengths and no one could come close. he will be rememebred as great.

I agree with you too!!!! :)

Barbaro was SO cute in his stall with his sheet all signed and watching the race on the TV. I wanted to cry because he SO should have been running at Belmont today!

When I saw him in his stlal when they showed it on TV, I wondered who he was rooting for in his absence. LOL !:D

I think he was saying "I could have kicked all of your asses"! :p

I think he said "I could kick your tail, but i'd rahter look at it".

I think he would have won by 100 leghts.

Oh goodie trolls or 12 year old girls, havent decided which yet...

He'd have won by a thousand lengths...no a million <rolls eyes sarcastically>

Kudos to Scuds and hooves. You had it right on.

It's a little late, but I'm starting to like Jazil! As Scuds said, the horse doesn't quit. Great one to use in matchups.

--Dunbar

PS--my "signature" applies particularly well to my Belmont bets.

Scuds, not a big baseball fan, I am very fair weather when it comes to the Reds, if they are winning, I'll pay attention, if not, I could care less. As for Milton, he just had knee surgery, maybe that's what's been bothering him. The two best acquisitions the Reds have made are Arroyo and Brandon Phillips, that Phillips kid was on the scrap heap, and now he's playing pretty well. The Reds have new ownership and a new GM, the new owner has made it clear that they will win and he's going to spend to get it done...