3/7 (AQU): Gotham S. (Gr. III); Toboggan H. (Gr. III)
 

8th (3:49) Toboggan H. (G3)

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Driven by Success Maragh R 119 L
2 Eternal Star Pimentel J 121 L
3 Place Your Bet Stisted J 121 L
4 Joey P. Castro E 121 L
5 Lucky Island (ARG) Garcia Alan 121 L
6 West Coast Flier Morales P 119 L
7 Saint Daimon Samyn J L 119 L
8 Grand Champion Coa E M 121 L
9 Ah Day Russell S 121 L



9th (4:18) Gotham S. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Naos Luzzi M J 116 L
2 Russell Road Dunkelberger T L 116 L
3 Masala Coa E M 116 L
4 Axel Foley Migliore R 116 Blk-Off L
5 Mr. Fantasy Garcia Alan 116 L
6 Haynesfield Lopez C C 120 L
7 Imperial Council Maragh R 116 L
8 I Want Revenge Talamo J 116 L
9 Giant Ryan Sanchez J 116 L

When was the last time horses in a Gotham had made their previous starts at 6 different tracks?

AQU, SA, GP, PHA, LRL, GG

How 'bout that?

Should be great. Any chance you make it down to the Big A?

I was thinking the same thing. Nice to see it.

What a great betting race #2 Russell Road very interesting.. Obviously he has faced nothing like he'll face Saturday.

He's also never gone a route, but he is a cool horse to follow. West Va has sent some decent horses to NY in the past including Researcher.

Anybody have any thoughts on the mercurial Ah Day in the Toboggan? There seems to be enough pace to set up his run..

Do you think Lucky Island is the same horse as he was last spring? The works look spotty so I think he's a bet against. I just emailed a friend of mine who I'm going to the the Big A with on Saturday and said that Ah Day could pick up the pieces of a meltdown at a big price.

1. Mr. Fantasy Or Imperial Council
2. Masala


what a brutal morning line for the Gotham.

Haynesfield is the handicapper's underlay and should be no more than 7/2 in the morning line, and is a discouraging 5-1!

Masala, the overlay every handicapper wanted to sneak into his exotic tickets is a cat-out-of-the bag 5-1 4th choice. OUCH!

Very discouraging to have BOTH the underlay and the overlay adjusted in the morning line. A good chunk of money was set to play Haynesfield and overlook Masala, and to the discredit of the linesmaker, I believe we will see this reflected clearly in the Post Time Odds even with the poor ML.

With racing THIS GOOD, I might have to give up all those other tracks and play AQU (and NYRA) exclusively. :rolleyes:

One thing is for sure: NYRA doesn't have overly demanding fans.

I think Dunkelberger is used to about 6 or 7 turns at this distance. He might have trouble timing his move here.

He used to ride in NY and he rides at LRL. . . he'll be fine - only question is if the horse is good enough. . . I'm playing Axel Foley.

I assume out of loyalty to Beverly Hills Cop III?

Joey, I absolutely love Ah Day tomorrow (so now he has no shot). I just hope that the track is playing fair enough that he could close into what should be a sucidal pace.

In the 6th at Aqueduct, I like a horse like Counter Move, easy winner at Turfway switches to high % trainer; a nice 2/59 work on the training track on 2/15; West Coast Flyer can't be 15-1 in the Tobaggan, but I'll accept double digits; I'm going to pass on the Gotham-it's too wide open and I'll just pull for Mr Fantasy, who is in my Road to the Roses stable

Imperial Council
Haynesfield
Mr. Fantasy

It looks like there will be a good to honest pace in the Gotham, assuming the riders are going to do what they are supposed to do, the last time I thought that they left a horse out as the lone speed and it was all over.

The duct is a highwaaaaay.

I wanna ride it all night long.

NYRA comes up BIG again, with the BIGTIME BIAS on the biggest day of racing so far this year.

BUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH

I should go 7-7 the rest of the day;)

he just got up(not official yet, but i think he got the bob)-good for the King!!

Well, Shug apparently wanted to see how Imperial Council would rate and didn't plan on winning. Either that, Or Maragh thought the race was a mile and a quarter.

If I was Shug.. Id be pleased the horses effort..

As a bettor you have to be pleased with Shug if he decided to throw the race. It just makes you want to root for him if that's the case.


But really it's not. The horse isn't good enough.

Yeah I just heard. Pleased to see that. That race sure had some blasts from the past. I forgot all about Joey P. and Saint Daimon.

What's going on with the Gotham finish? It's not up yet on the charts/results but the SA feed I'm watching just announced I Want Revenge nailed it. Any further info?

Ran lapped on Mr. Fantasy to midstretch, then kicked clear and won by 4 (or more). Mr. F caught by Imperial Council for second.

i was irritated, i want revenge had just gotten away from mr. fantasy and the screen went blank-hrtv had 'technical issues'.

i want revenge over imperial council, who just nosed out mr. fantasy

Its up on U-tube.
They get these bigger races up pretty quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvUh7XMy3Tc

there are a number of others.

I have to tend to agree here.
Anything resembling a derby contender should have challenged for the win here with this group. I want revenge did seem to run a pretty good race on first viewing. I don't think that Revenge is going to like 10 furlongs but he looked pretty good at 8.5. Imperial Council ran a disappointing race. I don't really consider him a derby horse, but he was still supposed to win this race.

True, the goal was the Gotham.. not the more important future races..

The horse is a disgustingly slow slob..

humble Pie
 

I have to eat crow for this one! :o
They both went off at 5-1, and Haynesfield only had $2,000 more dollars total, out of 100K in the whole WPS pools. Whether or not the ML had a little bit of self fulfilling influence or not is moot, I said their would be a clear difference in Post Time Odds. When betting opened and smaller betters(fan money/otb,trackgoers) began to bet, Haynesfield was 7-2 while Masala was 8-1. However when the bulk of money began to count up there was actually more going on Masala. Just an example of how tough the pools can be. Wasn't really money to be made on Haynesfield quitting.

What? He was supposed to win the best Gotham in years (a.) in his first route, (b.) with one sprint race since a long layoff and (c.) off a three-week turnaround and ship? It's not like he ran terribly. He lagged behind and came flying late to nail the place horse. I'm not sure how you can be disappointed with his race.

I agree..
He was up near the lead in his previous 3 races. Clearly, they wanted to take him back and see how he would do. Whether he's good enough to win the Wood is another question, but they changed tactics today to see if how he would run from way off the pace.

i don't see how either. his previous was a 6.5 f race-til today he'd never run past 7f. i think this race may well have set him up for the wood-we shall see.

I'm not disappointed, I thought he ran decent for what he is, but I do think if anyone viewed him as Derby contender, they should probably be disappointed.

He didn't have to beat a good race from I Want Revenge, but (IMO) he should have challenged for the win. IC isn't going to get any better at 9 or 10 furlongs. He also has a little bit of a conformation problem with his stride, and it's my opinion that he really needs to be head and shoulders above in these weaker preps to be projected highly for May.

i don't think the gotham was a weaker prep-and i thought IC ran well for his first time routing. whether he's a derby contender i don't know; but i wouldn't take him off of a list at this point.

I haven't seen the chart but it looked to me like Imperial Council didn't gain any ground on the winner in the final 1/4.

Still, I think he earned the right to move on.

Every year it's the same thing --- a horse impresses and the hype becomes contagious. Imperial Council is one example. Today's effort wasn't terrible. They went 48 2/5 to the half, not exactly flying, and it showed as the pacemakers had plenty left late. So, all said, Imperial Council does deserve another chance, but I hope the superstar hype ceases.

The big story of the Gotham is that I Want Revenge dusted these guys, and he lost to Pioneer of the Nile. If Pioneer of the Nile stays on course, and takes to dirt, how good is he? These synthetic preps are screwing up my brain.

i have a hard time believing that all the west coasters will take to the real thing. or that if they do, that they'll all show high ability on each surface.