It's way too early to do this...
 

... so let's do it anyway. :D

At this early point in time (since it's another sloooow Tuesday), list your top 5 Derby hopefuls.

Who wants to go first?

Old fashioned
Fresian fires
Pioneer of the nile
Giant oak
The pegasus horse who ran second to fires

Stardom Bound
Vineyard Haven
Haynesfield
Friesan Fire
Can't find a fifth.

In no particular order (and with some amount of guilt cause I'm hoping Godolphin wins the Derby at some point, anyway...) :D

Crowded House
The Pamplemousse
Donativium
Stardom Bound
Poltergeist :eek:

Imperial council
Mr fantasy

Why don't you make your life easier and just do this:

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/med...ominations.pdf

At some point, check the replay for the Racing Post Trophy (Crowded House). (Nice run in the Tatts Million too where he was 2nd to Donativium).

You tell me...

Doesn't do it for me.

I think you missed the most important point......



......he just gave definitive proof that he can't count to five.







The fact that he's unable to shut up had already been firmly established.

Of course he can count to five, after all, he once went nine for nine at some OTB in NY.

He just gets carried away with his enthusiasm.

1) Old Fashioned
2) Hello Broadway
3) Imperial Council
4) Stardom Bound
5) Big Drama

Does Kiaran McLaughlin have any contenders this year?

I don't know yet.
Old Fashioned looks like a good shot to hit the board at this point.

He has Mr Fantasy and Charitable Man (if he returns in time).

1) Pioneer of the Nile
2) Pioneer of the Nile
3) Pioneer of the Nile
4) Pioneer of the Nile
5) Pioneer of the Nile

Paul

By the way, I really like Pioneer of the Nile...

1. Patena
2. Capt. Candyman Can
3. Old Fashioned
4. Friesan Fire
5. Flying Pegasus

NT

No, nor me, KG...... I think she is getting too excited about this Crowded House. He'd need to be starting soon to have any chance of hitting the board.

Has Taqarub as well, not sure what his plans are for that one.

Fountain of Youth where one contributor to this board has already pronounced he will "get drowned."

He's probably right.

NT

Can I book your futures action? Please? Except on Friesan Fire. Stardom Bound's trainer doesn't want her to run in the SA Derby, do you think he'll want the KY Derby? Or will Dutrow have her by then?
Haynesfield's chance of getting 10f without a horse van are slim, esp. in G1 company.

1. Old Fashioned
2. Patena
3. West Side Bernie
4. Giant Oak
5. Vineyard Haven

everyone who likes these horses, shed a tear whilst crossing them off your list...they have zero chance now. oh, and the other two he added to his list of five...

I like any horse Kiaran Mclaughlin trains.
This guy is my favorite trainer. He is due to win a derby.

/Pioneerofthenile, Poltergeist, Patena, Fresian Fires &Chocolate Candy and the Pamplemousse and Beethoven and on & on way too many to decide. :zz:

I agree with this. Guys like Frankel and Pletcher and the Dubai people......they need to pay their dues first then maybe it will be their time. McLaughlin is due now.

I can count, but its hard to have only 5 at this point of year.
I know deep down inside YOU REALLY REALLY LIKE ME.

Welcome Sally Field into the discussion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IynQCmqvXZs

NT

Huh? Pletcher needs to "pay his dues" but McLaughlin is due now? They've been on their own about the same time and Todd has certainly achieved more with three year olds. As for Frankel, he's been training for about 40 years, give or take and he's still got to "pay his dues" also?
Also, not sure about this year but in the long run KMclaughlin's best shot may be with a Darley horse anyhow.

This might be the most outrageous statement I've ever read on this board, any horse racing board, and the web all together.

Mclaughlin's biggest client is the dubai folk either it be shadwell, darley but he does have horses for westpoint as well. Mr. Fantasy from westpoint looks to have a shot in the derby trail and become a contender for the derby.

Matter of fact, all three of Mclaughlin's "derby" horses are undefeated.

Sound handicapping. ;)

i know i'm writing it down for future reference.

I'm sorry that sarcasm doesn't translate well.

The only difference is that I dont BET every horse he trains.

I will bet that Mclaughlin will win a derby before Pletcher and Frankel.

Gotcha! My bad...

Interesting prop... Frankel doesn't get enough 3-year-olds, McLaughlin doesn't get the better ones (Dubai) so I would say Pletcher wins it first out them, but not by a wide margin.

Some people on this board have no idea how
much money they have made off of the
"he is due" handicapping method.

I have an idea for myself. Not much...

People should worship the "he is due" method.
They should perpetuate this method as a
very critical angle.

Baffert got tired of winning them so he
is giving the ones that are due a chance.
So throw out his Egyptian horse.