Oden out again?
 

greg oden didnt make it through his first NBA game before getting hurt.

The modern day Sam Bowie

The guy is a freak. He will never last, he's just too damn big.

I wish him the best, and hope he gets the chance to prove me wrong, but he was never that good anyways. I don't know what the hype was all about. He's much too slow to play at an elite level in the NBA.

You new yorkers are tough philly.:p

He is barely 20 years old and had one year in college and that year was abbreviated by yet another injury.

At 7' 2" he is never going to be quick. But...he can move for a guy that size. He can jump and block shots like a young Mutombo. Basically he can change a team's interior defense right away.

Offensively he can shoot with either hand and play with his back to the basket which is becoming more and more rare among NBA big men. He needs to develop moves in the paint but again he is only 20.

If he can stay healthy (HUGE "IF"), Oden will be a dominating NBA center if not offensively then certainly defensively.

Fine work---you will be a great predator.


I just know it.

Like I said, he's definitely a good character guy (generally lacking in the NBA), and plays the game the right way- so I find myself rooting for him, but I was not blown away by him in college. Just being tall doesn't make you a great player- see Sean Bradley, George Muhresan, et al.

Philski...Ohio State was 35-5 and in the nc game with this freshmen center.

He's far and away unlike those other 2.



Give him his 3rd healthy year at the outside and this guy will dominate defensively.

OK, bad comparison, but you get my point. That was an excellent team/coaching job, I honestly feel his point guard buddy might end up being the better player of the two in the NBA though.

I think Conley has talent. He could be a solid NBA point but you really never know there. Look how many "cant miss" types that never recreated the success they had in college (Kenny Anderson, Pearl Washington, Stephon Marbury, etc, etc, etc). At the other end, look at how many surpassed expectations (steve nash, gilbert arenas, John Stockton, etc,etc).

Center is different than any other position. What Oden is attempting hasnt been done successfully since Moses Malone (who by the way didnt score his first game in the pros either). I know Chandler and Curry had moderate success but neither of them would ever have been considered a true center coming into the league.

Give Oden time. All of those centers that you would compare him to have three or more years of development under their belts before they even entered the league.

Well...a little.


I know the negative stats,but 5 rebounds and a block aren't bad numbers in 13 minutes for his first game.

I really think he will be worthy of the 1st choice. Conley was really something as a freshmen....even as a senior.

I'm not familair enough to know how he will do........but the big guys are easier to project..I think.

Please don't disagree with me or I will have Dala bite you.

Now I must try to even though I don't... Dala can bite me any time :)

extrapolated over 40 minutes thats 15 boards and 3 blocks.

You havent seen philly mortimer. He is absolutely biteable!:{>: :{>:

If he wasnt marrying a great girl of course.

he looks like grandpa lebron james in that nike commercial. I'm not surprised this guy keeps getting hurt b/c he looks like he's 42, surprised he hasn't broken his hip yet

-bt-

bynum is in his THIRD season. His first year he could barely walk and chew gum.

This was Oden's FIRST game and he got five boards and a 1 block in 13 minutes.

Its useless to compare the two. Its like comparing a first time starter to a horse that just finished the triple crown series.

Oh will you stop it?





I saw him in this is me.

He looks like The Fly.

You said you never saw her..only your girlfriend did.




She's probably ugly.

My prediction was based on up to his third year out if he can make it that far.





Don't be going SkidsMom on us....MISTER.

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age doesnt mean ****. Its nba experience that matters. Save half of a season in college, that was Oden's first game since high school. Lets lookat Bynum's FIRST year:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/...avg=pg&split=0

The only thing Bynum was "warming up" was the bench.

these were the stats if you dont feel like opening the link:

46 0 7.3 1.6 0.7 1.0 1.7 0.2 0.09 0.48 0.4 0.53 1.2 0.0

To Hossy;

Oh I will agree....I only make a projection based on what I saw of him in one year ( hurt) at Ohio State. He could be snake bit,but I think he'll be a big time player if he gets over the injury bug. Even then I may be proven wrong.

But that's like SkidsMommy be proven stupid;happens all the time.

We will see. But one correction. This is Bynum's FOURTH year "learning in the NBA". Oden is in his first year besides half a college season.

Stats last night?

In 29 minutes Bynum had 8 pts 3 boards 3 blocks

Oden 13 minutes 0 pts 5 boards 1 block.

Interesting that a guy with a fraction of the NBA experience of the other guy that he cant "warm up" outrebounded him in his first game playing less than half the minutes.

Lucky rebounds i guess.

We will see. For the record, i think bynum will be a fine NBA center.

I watched the game last night...very under-impressed. Yeah, he got some boards and a block BUT....he showed zero offensive skills...NONE!! As Sir Charles said at halftime, he took one shot about a foot from the bucket and it went 6 inches...no touch at all! His hook shots (for want of a better word) clanged off the backboard....compared to him, Big Ben has the touch of Reggie Williams! Yeah, he should improve with PT but he has a long...very long, way to go to be an offensive threat in the NBA. Again quoting Charles, "I've never seen him score except by the dunk"! He also commits way too many silly fouls...if he does get healthy, this will greatly curtail his PT. Overall...I like the kid too, but he seems like an underachiever at the pro level. Conley, on the other hand, has an excellent chance to be one of the leagues best PG's...I predict a break-out season for him this year!

Are you insane?

13 minutes into his pro career and you can surmise that he is an "underachiever"?

Amazing.

I dunked on Jordan 4 times in my first 13 minutes in the NBA, didn't you hear?

Im not saying what they should or shouldnt have done...merely what they DID do. You want to compare a guy in his fourth season to a guy that is 13 minutes into his NBA career.

You said "oden couldnt warm bynum up". Correct? Well, he outrebounded him head to head in their first matchup and played less than half the time.

LOL. Thats underachieving...at the NBA level anyway.

That is the craziest statement i have heard in a sports discussion. How can you underachieve in the NBA after 13 minutes?

I'm sorry...it was this Again with the rebounds. that did it.


I will stay out of this.

Total skills? bynum has played in over 150 pro games over 3 seasons compared to 13 minutes by oden. Yeah, bynum wins the skills portion of the competition after 13 minutes in the pros and 20 games in college for Oden. That makes a lot of sense.

Rebounds are a huge part of the game. Defense is a huge part of the game. Perhaps he will never be a dominant offensive player but he can dominate from the defensive end of the court and get his points off the boards. Why do so many people not understand that?

Expectations are amazing for a kid who has played 13 minutes. In 13 minutes we have one guy that says he is an "underachiever" (that was the award winner) and others say that he will never be a good offensive player.

The same thing happened when Lebron came out. People compared him to Kobe right away and thats just not fair. Compare them now.