Big Brown Beyer for Preakness was a 100
 

Is this the slowest winning of a triple crown race since Jazil's big 95?

Pretty Dam good for what was basically a workout. Next stop Belmont and the Triple Crown.

Give me a break. A 100 beyer is never good for this caliber. It is grade 3 caliber and the rest of the field couldn't even run it. This is easily the slowest group of 3 year olds in decades.

Would you PLEASE stop acting like you know what you are talking about.
This horse is a freak. I can't wait to see him destroy your Casino Drive. Did you watch the race yesterday or did you have your head up your ass like you usually do.

Why would anybody care about a BSF for yesterdays race? You had a record setting track, a moderate pace and a horse who basically was shut down with 1F to go? Did you think it would be a fast figure?

So it proved that there was nobody else in the race...thank you Capt Obvious.

Me and Andy Beyer. The horse is not running fast. What do you want me to tell you that he is just so good that he is making these horses look bad. These are terrible horses. Half of the Derby and Preakness fields are mid 80 beyer horses that belong in allowance races at Monmouth.

Thank You Tiggerv. He obviously didn't watch the overhead to see how he dominated the field.

Why would I care about the other horses? It doesn't bother me that it's a weak year. Not one bit. This animal continues to impress me more and more every race. You've made it clear you don't like him. I don't really care who you do or don't like. I also don't care if it was a low Beyer. Thyere's not another 3 year old who can beat him.

Sox Quit trying to Reason with him He is obviously a follower of the BSF.
I know he is not slow you no he is not slow so let Beyer and HIm live in LaLa land for awhile.

Good Point!

Anyone that blindly bets figures will lose, period. Whether mine, Beyer, Thorograph, Sheets, whatever. But they are a pretty good starting point.

"a follower of the BSF"? Umm, Beyer's BSF is not saying BB is slow. He is saying the Preakness was run in a slow time. Anyone who was not comatose while watching the race could see that Desormeaux and BB could have gotten to the wire much faster than they did, and earned a higher BSF in doing so. Desormeaux had his eyes on the Belmont wire, not the Preakness wire.

In Beyer's column he merely said the horse hasn't beaten much yet. Hard to argue with that.

--Dunbar

He also says the horse has yet to run a fast race. The horse hasn't even broke a 110 beyer. He appears to be a 105 beyer horse. Nothing special there.

And Casino Drive won the Peter Pan, with a great trip, getting a 99 Beyer.

Maybe you should get the beyer correct and then you can comment.

They moved it up two points. Well, that certainly makes all the difference in the world.

Out of curiousity, after Casino Drive tanks in the Belmont, will you be slinking out the back door or changing your name to Mien?

I don't need to slink out any door. He will win, go back to Japan, and then take on Curlin. BB will lose and the excuse will be a mysterious injury and he will be retired.

As for the beyer, they did move it up 2 points but they should have moved in up 7 points. There claim that the track got that much faster was nonsense. He did it in his second career start off a long layoff after quarantine. Only exceptional animals can do that.

Carnac the Magnificent has spoken.

Someone had to take the pressure off Harding and Cheswick.

HAHAHA Good One

Setting aside the general hilarity of your posts, you are making the usual mistake that internet buffoons make......using a Beyer figure as gospel when it suits your argument ( Big Brown is slow because he ran a 100 ) but then explaining why a Beyer figure is inaccurate when it doesn't suit your argument ( Casino Drive is better than Big Brown ). Of course, if you really wanted to understand figs and racing, instead of just screeching for attention, you could have brought up that while the 100 figure for Big Brown works well for Icabad Crane and his past, it comes up 7 to 15 points light for a number of other horses in the race. Now, I think the number works, as the track appeared consistent during the day, unlike the Belmont surface on Peter Pan day when any competent figure maker understands that there was a split variant.

Actually, I think BTH is the tatood lady I saw at the county fair last year. I mean really, it's one thing to have an opinion and quite another to claim to know about "mysterious injuries". How do you expect anyone to believe anything you say?

No. I am not putting down Big Brown. Just saying he isn't even as good as any of the top 3yr olds from last year. So to say he is great is hilarious.

It is funny how Robby Albarado also agrees with me.

Albarado said. “Frankly, there were at least four 3-year-olds last year who were as good as Big Brown if not better. Street Sense, Hard Spun, Any Given Saturday and Curlin.”

You should. You've done enough.

Now I know your phucking nuts.

Shocking to hear Curlin's rider say such a thing. :rolleyes:

As if that quote means anything. Kent D also said BB was the best horse he has ever been on. Now I am confused. Who do I believe? :confused:

BTW Beyers aren't the only speed figures out there. Some of the others indicate that BB is quite a bit faster than last year's group.

Either way...no point in arguing with you. Please continue to pimp out the Peter Pan winner.

Curlin, sure, I can see that. Street Sense...I guess the case could be made, but it is shaky. Hard Spun? Big, big stretch seeing how he never really won anything of note. I refuse to even address Any Given Saturday.

Who said he was great?

Albarado should just stick to riding horses. Curlin is a yes, Street Sense a maybe, but the other two, no way

Nobody. He's hearing thing again. Rough day on Fantasy Island.

Did Robby say "Casino Drive" as well? LOL. Listen, if this colt steps up -- and he needs to big time -- and beats Big Brown, so be it. Anybody can beat anybody on any given day, and in a race as enigmatic as the Belmont, perhaps even more so.

Eric

I wouldn't be using this kind of argument to bolster any opinion.

OK we are going to play the name dropping game now I was never going to bring this up BTH opened the door.

Scott Blasi has stated on the Backside of Churchill Downs that he did not now if Curlin Could beat big Brown and was not for sure if he wanted to run Against him

I will stick to links with actual quotes.

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/200...8/great-horse/

You can say whatever you want. I can assure you Scott Blasi never said he wasn't sure if he wanted to run against him. If he said anything it would be we won't find out because Curlin is a tough horse that hung around and Big Brown will be retired before he faces Curlin. Thanks for playing though.

I wonder if Kent Desormeaux offered after today's 3rd at Belmont whether or not he felt Big Brown could have won any race with the kind of ride he gave Alluring Tune.

Anyone catch that gem?

Congratulations.. you just bought your ticket out of here for insulting yet another person who works inside the industry and has more credibility here than you... Those that can't interract with others to the standards set here can ply their nonsense elsewhere...

Bye..