Prado on Adriano
 

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...rby-mount.aspx

Chalk it up to his relationship with Motion, or does he (or his agent) think Adriano's got a better shot than Tale of Ekati or Monba?

Interesting. The jock carousel will continue, I'm sure. There were rumors that Gomez would hop off Court Vision in favor of Colonel John, but those have been shot down (Nakatani still on). Gomez could wind up on one of the Pletcher horses, if he were to leave Mott's colt.

In fact, these seem to to be the only somewhat confirmed jockey assignments for the derby:

War Pass - C.Velasquez
Pyro - S. Bridgemohan
Big Brown - K. Desormeaux
Recapturetheglory - ET Baird
Smooth Air - Manny Cruz
Visionaire - Jose Lezcano
Adriano - Edgar Prado
Gayego - Mike Smith

I suspect Robby Albarado will end up on Z Fortune.

him and his agent have to think that... realtionships are cool and all but this is the derby, he'd ride whatever horse he felt had the best chance, and its adriano...

... and Dominguez on Monba.

I don't think Prado thinks any of those horses have a big chance, otherwise he would've committed earlier.

Well, at the Team Penning Monday night, Jamie Theriot showed he really has an excellent seat on a horse and some cow sense. Julian L. is okay, and Robby A. looked a bit out of place. Angel C. was there, but I don't think he was really participating :D

ok i can agree with that... but this is the KENTUCKY DERBY, he is going to ride the horse that he feels give's him the best shot to win, do you agree ?

julian is going to be great...
as soon as patrick returns.

Sure.. Or if the difference is negligible, he might choose loyalty. If he thought Tale of Ekati or Monba had legitimate shots to win, he'd be on one of them. Says something about them that he chose the horse who's yet to prove anything on dirt, I think.

i was going to say something like that earlier..... i throw monba and tale of ekati out now.... adriano was horrible on dirt in the FOY, and that race has came back to be a horrible race, no one has come back to win, and he was beaten badly, never ran a good or even decent race on dirt, and prado picks him over... the wood winner and the bluegrass winner....

I was on the fence about both, and I still am, but this certainly doesn't give me any more confidence in them.

From bloodhorse.com (excerpted)

I will still be using Tale Of Ekati in all spots of my ticket, can't say the same for Adriano however.

What? Were they really working cattle or is this a joke...:p

All Star Jockey Team Penning
 

No, really "working" cattle, for charity (Don MacBeth Memorial Jockey Fund) - two local cowboys or girls, and a jock on the team. Cut three designated cattle out and into the pen at the other end of the arena. They also have a calcutta on the teams. Tim Conway was the Emcee.

Bill W. is in town and goes, I went along with him - pretty fun stuff!

But Theriot really does have a very good, soft seat on a horse. Pat Day was there, too. Who else, Bill?

OMG that is too much fun.
I would have loved to have been there for that. Must have been funny to see some of them on a cutting horse.
Glad to hear Jamie kept up his Cajun heritage, he seems as though he's into that kind of stuff. At the fund raiser for EJ Perrodin Jamie donated a cow skin saddle for the auction. We all had a big discussion if he actually ever used it.

Hey next year I'll send ya a catahoula dog for the jocks that have a hard time.

What a fun thing, glad you enjoyed yourself, did you buy the right calcutta?

LOL - I didn't bid. The big farms were bidding, most teams were 1-2 thousand dollars.

Also, you can add Alex Solis to riding Bob Black Jack. He committed late last week.

[quote=DaHoss9698]adriano was horrible on dirt in the FOY, and that race has came back to be a horrible race QUOTE]

As mentioned from another poster, Adriano came back to win. Also Monba was in the FOY (won the Bluegrass). Other horses that came back and "ran respectively / well" include Golden Spikes (2nd in Hawthorne Stakes), Court Vision (3rd in Wood), Kentucky Bear (3rd in Bluegrass). Thats almost 1/2 the field that came back and hit the board in G1/G2 stakes in their next starts. Not sure how that translates to a horrible race?

Funny how things change in 2 months. The week of the race everyone on this board was amazed at the depth of that field. Now it is a horrible race? I think when you go back and look at that field at the end of the year at least 3/4 of this field will win a graded stakes race this year.

NO WAY 3/4 of the field. But some of them will win graded stakes- not because they're good- but because there's no one else out there to win them.

Someone in the biz told me there were somewhere in the range of 35,000 3 year olds of racing age this year. So there are about 35000 "ones" that can "win them".

Not sure why you would be interested in the game if you think 35,000 3 year olds are "not good".

"Obviously I'm thrilled, not only that Edgar's riding him, but that, in doing so, he's endorsing the horse," Motion said.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/93732.html

So, apparently Motion looks at Prado's choice as an endorsement of the horse. Or is this just trainer-speak? One thing that bothers me greatly about Adriano is Motion's concerns that the horse won't handle the crowd at the Derby.

It's obviously an issue, but where did you see Motion comment on it?

DRF. That's what the link is for.

Read that article again and tell me if you see a quote on the subject.

I'm sorry, you meant the comment on the horse not handling the crowd. Motion said it while he was on ATR.

Thanks. Any idea what day?

Not really, just that he's concerned about the horse handling the crowd. Steve commented on Motion's comment in this thread.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...534#post345534

Where does that leave Eight Belles? Porter I guess confirmed that he was going to enter both races and decide which one he is running in after the derby draw. If they like the draw they run her on Saturday, if not they run her on Friday. But they released Dominguez for the Derby but he is committed to her in the Oaks. I know it's legal but if he enters and scratches in the Derby because of the post position, it would even sink him to an all new low imo........now with that said, I still think she may be the best 3 year old out there.......

How many of those 35,000 make it to the track? Out of the ones that do, how many break their maidens? How many actually make it to graded stakes? How many actually win graded stakes? Personally I don't care how good they are.

Just because this year's talent is down doesn't mean I can't enjoy the racing and more importantly it doesn't mean I can't generate opinions on which ones are a little less bad than the rest so that I can bet them.

hockey... you are the man around here... go to selections check out my big a picks for tomorrow

Thanks but I'm far from the man around here. . .