Official Derby Top 5
 

In Order....

1. Cowboy Cal- love the pedigree, love the running style, i think he gets a dream trip in the derby
2. Court Vision- think the wood was better then ppl think, and he should get the fast pace to run at/ at the begining of the year he was top 3 on most ppl's list's, now with 2 3rd's under his belt, everyone think's he's just slow. i am willing to give him another shot, in the key 3rd back, at a price.
3. Colonel John- I loved his last, and he has never done a thing wrong. should sit mid pack and fire big, question is the surface, and i think he will be a bit overbet.
4. War Pass- just watched the replay of mark and mike on down the stretch, and some of there comments intrest me about war pass... i think he could get the distance, and he should be tons fitter for the derby, then he was for the wood. remember he only worked once after the tampa debacle, and he got nothing out of that race. i think its easy to belive he was a short horse in the wood, and still ran very fast early, and was game late.
5. Monba- won nicely already at churchill.... and is another 1 who was top 3-5 on EVERYONES LIST coming into this year, he got destroyed in the FOY, and ppl kind of forgot about him, but he really has not done anything wrong, and came back strong yesterday.

make it the debry Top Six

Cool Coal Man.... i forgot about him

i would also like to point out... besides colonel john, i dont think i am touting a horse that will be under 8 or 9-1

and i would like to point out you're touting 25% of the field.

love that you point out how everyone forgot monba after the foy but pyro is now a write off. makes sense.

i play pick 3 and 4...
i will be making a win bet on Cowboy Cal.
which i thought is obvious with the # 1 ranking, i did put in order on top.

5 deep to end all pick 3 and 4

do you normally finalize your derby wagers by April 13th?

have you decided on how to structure the rest of your pick 4 ticket 3 weeks out?

i mean since it's apparently ending with 5 selections, which race are you going narrow on? do you have a single for us?

not at this point, when i do i will tell you... but i can say this. those are my 5 to end it with. if any of them dont go then i use 4 and dont add another one, and i will have to structure my ticket with 5 on the back end.

understood.

i like your dedication. it doesn't matter if colonel john hates dirt. his works are immaterial. you'll include him.

makes sense.

keep me posted on that single.

BFD. Colonel John is also the only one you listed that has any shot of winning.

also like i said i dont have any other info, but you dont need a single. i mean i dont bet tons, but you could always do this... and it does not cost a ton

2-3-2-5

How do you know that Cowboy Cal will get a dream trip when you do not know what post he is breaking from? I agree with War Pass and he prob is my Derby pick right now. I guess he will get the lead and the rest have to pass him.

YOUR WRONG

its weird cause i was ready to toss him, but the more i think the more i like him again

Your good at grammar.

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You know what's not weird? Is the fact that you continue to make weird posts.

they're not weird. you couldn't predict weird.

but ever since pg came back you could depend on a post after a prep was run that he liked the winner in the derby. sometimes the second place runner.

just wait for the lexington and see.

Hopefully Prussian and Elysium Fields could let the rest of the equine world know how difficult the pressure of being jcs' Derby pick is as they are among the wreckage in his path to Louisville.

NT

If he didn't really believe it, it wouldn't be so funny. Cowboy Cal...heh.

In order....but subject to change!

Colonel John
Smooth Air
Pyro
Visionaire
Monba

who the hell makes their picks this far out from any race? jc, you wonder why people give you a hard time, and then you give your supposed picks for a race three weeks out. you've got to be kidding. why the hurry?? shouldn't you wait to see what the horses do when they actually arrive at the track? how well they work? if they shipped well, eat well....who draws what post? the weather, the track, how the early races are run, and if there is any bias detectable?

"who the hell makes their picks this far out from any race?"

people who want internet bragging rights that they were there early.

on that subject i have dibs on recapturetheglory for last.

i don't care how he trains. i don't care about his post. i don't care if eight belles runs.

i want the bragging rights on this one.

Oh come on. That is like picking Wyoming to have the smallest population when the 2010 Census comes out and then bragging about it.

i'll be doing my 'bookend' contest again this year, so i look for you to have the roussel horse as the tailend of your entry!

i just wish i had a dollar for every horse jcs has chosen as his new #1. i could buy half a tank of gas at least.

i took a horse with a 102 beyer in it's last prep. he easily could be on pg's top 5 list. he'd be better qualified than court vision who hasn't run a step in 2008.

that's hardly wyoming.

Good. What prize can I expect this year?:D :rolleyes:

veitch pedigree profile...
court vision gets the love her deserves there

his pedigree isn't the issue

WHATEVER i cant belive the crap i take around here, i just post my thoughts !!!!! so what that i like him, hes going to be a big price, and there are def. some angles to playing him.

not sure yet....i better get on the ball and find something nice. did you enjoy the book?

And I'm posting my thoughts. Are we just supposed to read your opinions and smile and nod?

At this point I don't see a legitimate favorite. I'll be looking at Tomcito, Bob Black Jack, Smooth Air. Horses with longer odds.

lol
no, and i really do listen and value what you guys say........i am just a little pissed, i had a horrible betting weekend, just missed cowboy cal, hit 2/3 in multiple pick 3's, did nothing with the pick 4's, needed a 2-5 shot for a double 50 times and missed that today. just a bad weekend overall.

tomcito is not in yet.....

i have narrowed it down to the derby top 3...............

cowboy cal
court vision
war pass

Awesome. You took out the only horse of your picks that had a prayer of winning.

I don't understand. You like Court Vision because you think the pace is going to be wicked in the Derby, but then.. You like War Pass, too? Won't he be the one setting that clip?

save yourself some time and just use the "quick pick" button. You'd have a better chance

not to mention that the continental breakfast at the HIE motel really sucked too!!!

That might be good advice for all of us this year.

Jcs, Your going to get crap either way with the way you post. Your picking three weeks out for a race whose field is not known yet. You know not the weather, post positions, jockeys( a jockey could incur an injury in the next three weeks) weather or track condition. If you lose your a complete idiot for picking your horses three weeks out. If you win, your a idiot who finally got lucky. You don't seem to understand, your going to lose either way. Wait until they at least draw the derby and then make your picks. Even if your wrong, youll get alot less flack.