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AeWingnut 03-01-2008 09:39 AM

NASCAR and the Ky Derby
 
oh boy the Derby made it on the hood of a Toyota Camry

I can see that just bringing over



no one

slotdirt 03-01-2008 09:52 AM

I went to the Derby, Preakness, and Belmont last year and also attended the NASCAR races in Daytona (July), Richmond (September), and Delaware (September).

You'd be surprised.

Travis Stone 03-01-2008 10:01 AM

Now in these NASCAR races, do you bet based upon the speed figure? Or pace? Or which team figures to rig the race?

That's extreme, but I lost all interest in NASCAR once I realized it was a car, and not a horse. But also that all these drivers, who look as though they represent themselves and their team, are owned by larger groups of owners who have multiple interests in the race. To me, that's just weird.

slotdirt 03-01-2008 11:18 AM

What, like they don't have coupled entries in tb racing?

Cajungator26 03-01-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
What, like they don't have coupled entries in tb racing?

Don't waste your time, Slot. I've been trying for years and I haven't gotten anywhere. :D

Mag 03-01-2008 07:10 PM

UPS sponsors a Ky Derby car every year....was a Toyota last year as well.

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-01-2008 10:09 PM

See avatar above

The Bid 03-01-2008 10:22 PM

Watching Nascar is some sort of cruel and unusual punishment. How anybody can enjoy it is mindboggling

VOL JACK 03-01-2008 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Watching Nascar is some sort of cruel and unusual punishment. How anybody can enjoy it is mindboggling


Kinda like watching big toothless men ice skate... I think they call it Hockey.;)

The Bid 03-01-2008 10:36 PM

Leave it to a guy from Tennessee to lead the defense of Nascar!

I was in a gas station in Tennessee once and some kid came in with a Tony Stewart earring. He had a nascar earring. DIdnt even konw they made those

Danzig 03-01-2008 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Kinda like watching big toothless men ice skate... I think they call it Hockey.;)

actually, hockey is a lot of fun to watch, very exciting and fast paced. not at all like watching cars go around. and around. and around. two hours later, they're still going around. and around and zzzzzzzzz......

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-01-2008 11:17 PM

Don't forget there's "Sports Entertainment" or what use to be wrasslin'..... my second favorite behind horseracing

AeWingnut 03-02-2008 10:05 AM

I guess I'm outta touch. No one that I know thinks that Toyota is good for NASCAR they are still arguing over Ford vs Chevy. Maybe it is like The Legend of Ricky Bobby.. they only eat food that is advertised on cars. So since the KY Derby is on the hood of a car they will all tune into watch the race.

I imagine it can't hurt

fpsoxfan 03-02-2008 10:17 AM

I've always said that it would be cool to bet exactas, triples, etc. in Nascar races.

Yes, I'll have a $2 triple wheel

88-20/88-20-18-24-12/All

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-02-2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
I've always said that it would be cool to bet exactas, triples, etc. in Nascar races.

Yes, I'll have a $2 triple wheel

88-20/88-20-18-24-12/All

Wish I'd "wheeled" the "99" last weekend! :)

deltagulf 03-02-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Leave it to a guy from Tennessee to lead the defense of Nascar!

I was in a gas station in Tennessee once and some kid came in with a Tony Stewart earring. He had a nascar earring. DIdnt even konw they made those

they will sell anything and say nascar so people go out and but that stuff.
they believe it helps there driver and sport. just makes them more money.
cause it is just a few teams that win most of the races.

pgardn 03-02-2008 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Leave it to a guy from Tennessee to lead the defense of Nascar!

I was in a gas station in Tennessee once and some kid came in with a Tony Stewart earring. He had a nascar earring. DIdnt even konw they made those

It is apparently popular in Pennsylvania also.
Some relatives brought down NASCAR trading
cards? yes indeed.

My family was bewildered. We have no darn cards.
They asked who are
favorite drivers were. Damn.

A bit awkward, I tried to think of some, but then
I heard that if one gives a driver that the family does
not like, its a Hatfield and McCoy thing. So they said
they hated Jeff Gordon and we all agreed.

Then we had to watch it. I remembered I had friends
to meet... be back in 500 laps.

asudevil 03-03-2008 08:59 AM

Attended first Nascar race in Las Vegas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Wish I'd "wheeled" the "99" last weekend! :)

Best part was the the Air Force Thunderbirds flying in formation at the end of the S.S. Banner.....I don't, for the life of me, understand this national obsession.

2Hot4TV 03-03-2008 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil
Best part was the the Air Force Thunderbirds flying in formation at the end of the S.S. Banner.....I don't, for the life of me, understand this national obsession.

Its the BEER. I love racing as long as I'm driving. Dont care to sit and watch much of it.

pgiaco 03-03-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
actually, hockey is a lot of fun to watch, very exciting and fast paced. not at all like watching cars go around. and around. and around. two hours later, they're still going around. and around and zzzzzzzzz......

What's more exciting than 500 miles of left hand turns?

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-03-2008 07:43 PM

It's gotta beat watching golf or tennis, now that's boring..............

GenuineRisk 03-03-2008 09:05 PM

All I know is that Dale Earnhardt Jr. candy bar cracked me up the first time I saw it. His face right next to "Big Mo." Brilliant.


westcoastinvader 03-03-2008 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
I've always said that it would be cool to bet exactas, triples, etc. in Nascar races.

Yes, I'll have a $2 triple wheel

88-20/88-20-18-24-12/All


Actually, I was at the Tahoe Biltmore this weekend, and they now offer Win, Place and Show on NASCAR wagering. And that's a small casino. I'm sure larger casinos and casino networks might have other fun offerings.

Most casinos also offer NASCAR parlay sheets with pairs of drivers matched against each other. Just have to pick the driver that will finish higher of the two. Pick three, four, five or more....just like on a football parlay sheet....without giving or getting points.

Last year for the Daytona 500 I had Ryan Newman, Dale Earnhardt, Jr., and Kevin Harvick at $50 each.

Harvick won on the last lap, and I had him at 17-1.

If interested in wagering in Nevada, be aware odds fluctuate WIDELY on individual drivers between casinos, and change much on qualifying days, practice days and race day.

westcoastinvader 03-03-2008 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader
Actually, I was at the Tahoe Biltmore this weekend, and they now offer Win, Place and Show on NASCAR wagering. And that's a small casino. I'm sure larger casinos and casino networks might have other fun offerings.

Most casinos also offer NASCAR parlay sheets with pairs of drivers matched against each other. Just have to pick the driver that will finish higher of the two. Pick three, four, five or more....just like on a football parlay sheet....without giving or getting points.

Last year for the Daytona 500 I had Ryan Newman, Dale Earnhardt, Jr., and Kevin Harvick at $50 each.

Harvick won on the last lap, and I had him at 17-1.

If interested in wagering in Nevada, be aware odds fluctuate WIDELY on individual drivers between casinos, and change much on qualifying days, practice days and race day.

Now just to show how much I really know about all this, I had Tony Stewart at 10-1 for $50 on Sunday.

He finished last, first out of the race!

PPerfectfan 03-04-2008 12:13 AM

For those that dont get the whole Nascar thing. I was right there with ya, couldnt believe someone was dumb enough to sit and what cars turn left for 3 hours!!! Hell if I wanted to see horse power I would go to the "horse" races. Co-worker invites me over for BBQ, oh and the "race" will be on. Hey, good BBQ and I can put up with just about anything. First race, I look at the cars and say "Gee, that one has a pretty cool paint schemethingy". Next weekend, "Hey where is that car with the cool paint schemethingy?", Next week, "Hey who the hell is that bumping into "my" car with the cool paint schemethingy?". And 5 years later I am one of the "dumb" ones that sit and watch cars turn left for 3 hours.hehe When you get watching close, following the drivers, and the teams, believe it or not, it becomes very interesting. My Blue Front Amazon Parrot has picked up our cheering for our favorite driver " Go Matt, Come on Buddy, You can do it". And I had a dog named after my drivers crew chief...sick I know, but true. :eek: And if anyone sees Jeff Gordon, give him a good bitch slap for me for wrecking "my" driver Matt Kenseth.......:mad:

Indian Charlie 03-04-2008 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader
Actually, I was at the Tahoe Biltmore this weekend, and they now offer Win, Place and Show on NASCAR wagering. And that's a small casino. I'm sure larger casinos and casino networks might have other fun offerings.

Most casinos also offer NASCAR parlay sheets with pairs of drivers matched against each other. Just have to pick the driver that will finish higher of the two. Pick three, four, five or more....just like on a football parlay sheet....without giving or getting points.

Last year for the Daytona 500 I had Ryan Newman, Dale Earnhardt, Jr., and Kevin Harvick at $50 each.

Harvick won on the last lap, and I had him at 17-1.

If interested in wagering in Nevada, be aware odds fluctuate WIDELY on individual drivers between casinos, and change much on qualifying days, practice days and race day.

Is that the first NASCAR redboard in this site's history?

Indian Charlie 03-04-2008 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
My Blue Front Amazon Parrot has picked up our cheering for our favorite driver " Go Matt, Come on Buddy, You can do it". And I had a dog named after my drivers crew chief...sick I know, but true. :eek:

I just reported you to the SPCA for cruelty to animals, in the guise of exposing innocent animals to NASCAR.

I hope you don't have children!

Riot 03-04-2008 01:38 AM

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And 5 years later I am one of the "dumb" ones that sit and watch cars turn left for 3 hours.hehe When you get watching close, following the drivers, and the teams, believe it or not, it becomes very interesting.
If only someone in horse racing would realize that never mentioning or showing the sport anywhere the general public frequents - television, the internet, print media - tends to kill the development of any fan base.

You couldn't hide a sports existence from the general public any better if you deliberately tried.

Mag 03-04-2008 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
For those that dont get the whole Nascar thing. I was right there with ya, couldnt believe someone was dumb enough to sit and what cars turn left for 3 hours!!! Hell if I wanted to see horse power I would go to the "horse" races. Co-worker invites me over for BBQ, oh and the "race" will be on. Hey, good BBQ and I can put up with just about anything. First race, I look at the cars and say "Gee, that one has a pretty cool paint schemethingy". Next weekend, "Hey where is that car with the cool paint schemethingy?", Next week, "Hey who the hell is that bumping into "my" car with the cool paint schemethingy?". And 5 years later I am one of the "dumb" ones that sit and watch cars turn left for 3 hours.hehe When you get watching close, following the drivers, and the teams, believe it or not, it becomes very interesting. My Blue Front Amazon Parrot has picked up our cheering for our favorite driver " Go Matt, Come on Buddy, You can do it". And I had a dog named after my drivers crew chief...sick I know, but true. :eek: And if anyone sees Jeff Gordon, give him a good bitch slap for me for wrecking "my" driver Matt Kenseth.......:mad:

I am married to the Anti-Rousch, so no rooting for Kenseth here:p , but I *did* start with NASCAR the same way you did, except it was Kahne who hooked me in the first few starts of his rookie year. There is sooooo much more to NASCAR racing than turning left. Huge amount of technology and strategy.

Gordon is probably still seeing stars from that hit...

Travis Stone 03-04-2008 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgiaco
What's more exciting than 500 miles of left hand turns?

Six furlongs with one left hand turn.

PPerfectfan 03-04-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I just reported you to the SPCA for cruelty to animals, in the guise of exposing innocent animals to NASCAR.

I hope you don't have children!

hehe, hey he picked it up all on his own, and you should see him when it comes on, he goes crazy, flapping his wings, running up and down his cage, "Go Matt", "Come on Buddy", "You can do it", "Go, Go Matt"! he just loves it. And no thank god, I dont have children....bad kids suck!!! Or I should say, bad parents who dont make their bad kids mind, suck!! :D

PPerfectfan 03-04-2008 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mumtaz
If only someone in horse racing would realize that never mentioning or showing the sport anywhere the general public frequents - television, the internet, print media - tends to kill the development of any fan base.

You couldn't hide a sports existence from the general public any better if you deliberately tried.

I have always said the same thing, with all of the outlets, why hasnt someone stepped up and atleast attempted a huge media blitz to try to get a bigger fan base. I have had people tell me, "Well besides the KY Derby, I have never heard about any other races much less any actual horses names". I cant believe with all of the money in this game, someone hasnt thought to get some of these high powered media savy firms and attempted to put this sport more on the map to the general public.

VOL JACK 03-04-2008 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
actually, hockey is a lot of fun to watch, very exciting and fast paced. not at all like watching cars go around. and around. and around. two hours later, they're still going around. and around and zzzzzzzzz......

Im no longer a fan of the sport... It's part of my conquest to become more like danzig.
Starting now I pledge to respond to every post, whether or not I know anything about the subject.

AeWingnut 03-04-2008 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
I have always said the same thing, with all of the outlets, why hasnt someone stepped up and atleast attempted a huge media blitz to try to get a bigger fan base. I have had people tell me, "Well besides the KY Derby, I have never heard about any other races much less any actual horses names". I cant believe with all of the money in this game, someone hasnt thought to get some of these high powered media savy firms and attempted to put this sport more on the map to the general public.

I often have people ask me if horses stop racing after the Ky Derby. They seem very surprised when I tell them that there are races every day of the week practiucally year round.

AeWingnut 03-04-2008 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Im no longer a fan of the sport... It's part of my conquest to become more like danzig.
Starting now I pledge to respond to every post, whether or not I know anything about the subject.

*******

Indian Charlie 03-04-2008 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut
I often have people ask me if horses stop racing after the Ky Derby. They seem very surprised when I tell them that there are races every day of the week practiucally year round.

yeah, that's maybe the whole idea behind expanding the breeders cup.

perhaps by dumbifying the event it will appeal to more NASCAR types of fans?

in retrospect, the ladies day idea is actually quite brilliant, as it will most likely get a long of drunk necks tuned in on friday!

if the bc people really wanted to get it together, they should tie in tshirts with ladies day. the ratings would soar through the roof!

AeWingnut 03-05-2008 06:03 AM

Sportsman's Park tried to tie horse racing in with NASCAR
hopefully the rest of the industry doesn't have the same result

as far as drunk necks.. the OTB I use moved into a bar. I imagine the bar thought that gambling = drinking.

The bar is kicking the OTB out after the Ky Derby this year

at least that is what I hear

Danzig 03-05-2008 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Im no longer a fan of the sport... It's part of my conquest to become more like danzig.
Starting now I pledge to respond to every post, whether or not I know anything about the subject.


????

GenuineRisk 03-05-2008 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
I have always said the same thing, with all of the outlets, why hasnt someone stepped up and atleast attempted a huge media blitz to try to get a bigger fan base. I have had people tell me, "Well besides the KY Derby, I have never heard about any other races much less any actual horses names". I cant believe with all of the money in this game, someone hasnt thought to get some of these high powered media savy firms and attempted to put this sport more on the map to the general public.

For all the talk about it, there isn't any financial reason to- the $$ in racing is gambling and breeding, and neither one really needs a "fan" base. I agree, it's annoying (my uncle, who has spent his life around horses couldn't understand why Seabiscuit merited a book, as he "never even ran in the Kentucky Derby"), but with more $$ to be made breeding a stallion than racing him, there's no reason to keep a horse running, and without a superstar horse to root for, what's to draw new fans? Somehow, I just don't see "Pletcher" jerseys becoming a big seller.

pdrift1 03-05-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
It's gotta beat watching golf or tennis, now that's boring..............


horse racing and nascar in the same sentence just makes me cringe:eek:

i'll take tennis way over nascar and golf isn't any better then nascar. ok i might be able to watch some golf but not for to long.

but for a few tracks-daytona, talladega,bristol - all you have is a bunch of cookie cutter 1mile ovals with cars spread out all over the place being lapped 10 or 15 times. watching paint dry is all it is


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