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Kasept 04-18-2007 06:41 PM

Federico Tesio Field
 
1 Belly Rub Rose J 116 L
2 Etude Garcia Luis 120 L
3 Saratoga Lulaby Panell D 116 LA
4 Pink Viper Panell D 120 LA
5 Xchanger Dominguez R A 116 LA
6 Zephyr Cat Fogelsonger R 116 LA

POINTGIVEN1985 04-18-2007 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
1 Belly Rub Rose J 116 L
2 Etude Garcia Luis 120 L
3 Saratoga Lulaby Panell D 116 LA
4 Pink Viper Panell D 120 LA
5 Xchanger Dominguez R A 116 LA
6 Zephyr Cat Fogelsonger R 116 LA

is it just me, or is this a horrible group ?

Sightseek 04-18-2007 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
is it just me, or is this a horrible group ?

Etude could be an interesting horse.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-18-2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
is it just me, or is this a horrible group ?

Come on, Belly Rub is a pretty good statebred!

POINTGIVEN1985 04-18-2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Etude could be an interesting horse.

i guess so, i will take jr from the rail though....

POINTGIVEN1985 04-18-2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Come on, Belly Rub is a pretty good statebred!

thats my pick

Kasept 04-18-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
is it just me, or is this a horrible group ?

Etude looks like he could be any kind. His last was a stunner.. Dick Small is a former Marine and really unusual guy. Might be a really good horse..

He and Trombo's Street Magician are this year's Maryland-based angle Preakness runner candidates..

POINTGIVEN1985 04-18-2007 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Etude looks like he could be any kind. His last was a stunner.. Dick Small is a former Marine and really unusual guy. Might be a really good horse..

He and Trombo's Street Magician are this year's Maryland-based angle Preakness runner candidates..

i think street magician has some talent....

slotdirt 04-18-2007 09:22 PM

Xchanger won a graded race at two. And this is ungraded, what kind of field did you want?

Buffymommy 04-18-2007 09:32 PM

Etude/Pink Viper exacta. :)

miraja2 04-19-2007 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Etude looks like he could be any kind. His last was a stunner.. Dick Small is a former Marine and really unusual guy. Might be a really good horse..

He and Trombo's Street Magician are this year's Maryland-based angle Preakness runner candidates..

I like Etude as well.
I picked him in the Private Terms Stakes at Laurel in DerbyCat's contest (although unfortunately I didn't have a real wager on him) but I don't remember much about him. All I really remember about him is that he has never been out of the exacta in his six lifetime starts.

brianwspencer 04-19-2007 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
is it just me, or is this a horrible group ?

The Tesio isn't really known for producing stellar fields, is it? Seriously do correct me if I'm wrong, but when I think of it in recent memory I'm thinking of Ah Day and Water Cannon. It seems to usually be a prepping ground for an eighth place finish in the Preakness.

Sightseek 04-19-2007 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
The Tesio isn't really known for producing stellar fields, is it? Seriously do correct me if I'm wrong, but when I think of it in recent memory I'm thinking of Ah Day and Water Cannon. It seems to usually be a prepping ground for an eighth place finish in the Preakness.

I'd love to own a horse like Ah Day...

brianwspencer 04-19-2007 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
I'd love to own a horse like Ah Day...

I think he's turned into a nice horse, I was speaking mostly about the types of horses it produces at that time in their career: Preakness also-rans.

slotdirt 04-19-2007 09:27 AM

Malibu Moonshine!

slotdirt 04-19-2007 09:27 AM

P.S. - I don't think Ah Day ran in the Preakness, did he?

brianwspencer 04-19-2007 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
P.S. - I don't think Ah Day ran in the Preakness, did he?

No, you're right.

Kasept 04-19-2007 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Malibu Moonshine!

Has been a very useful horse actually John. Now with Contessa who bought him privately.

Unheralded Maryland-based horses pop up and invade the Preakness board about once a decade.. Oliver's Twist and Magic Weisner come to mind, and of course Bee Bee Bee ('72) won it stunning Riva Ridge.

slotdirt 04-19-2007 10:06 AM

I always like seeing the King Leatherbury horses show up in the Preakness. Think Ah Day is a King horse, right?

I'd love to see Fogelsonger on a Preakness mount.

byalip 04-19-2007 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
The Tesio isn't really known for producing stellar fields, is it? Seriously do correct me if I'm wrong, but when I think of it in recent memory I'm thinking of Ah Day and Water Cannon. It seems to usually be a prepping ground for an eighth place finish in the Preakness.

I think Magic Weisner came out of the Tesio. Remember him in the Preakness? Another 5 yards, and he would have run down War Emblem.

ateamstupid 04-19-2007 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Etude looks like he could be any kind. His last was a stunner.. Dick Small is a former Marine and really unusual guy. Might be a really good horse..

He and Trombo's Street Magician are this year's Maryland-based angle Preakness runner candidates..

Dick Small!

miraja2 04-19-2007 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by byalip
I think Magic Weisner came out of the Tesio.

That is true....and Magic Weisner didn't win the Tesio that year, he was second.
In the early 80s Deputed Testamony won the Tesio and the Preakness.
Other notable Tesio winners include:
Broad Brush
Private Terms
and Concerto.

miraja2 04-19-2007 07:07 PM

Just looked at the pp, and I think Etude is a VERY solid single here. The horse finished second in his first three and was very wide in each of those races.
Since then he has picked up three victories in a row including a nice score in the Private Terms last out against a field of ten which included one of his opponents here (Saratoga Lul).
His works for this race - 5f in 1:02 followed by a slow mile work - are exactly what he did before the Private Terms when he ran a big one.
He has demonstrated a versatile running style, and his dam (Groovy Feeling) was a G2 winner going 10f, so the stretching out to 9f may not be a problem for him.
He will probaby be odds-on so there isn't any value, but I would be surprised if he doesn't win it.

Labeeb 04-20-2007 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
is it just me, or is this a horrible group ?

Even as Tesio fields go, this is a weak bunch of horses. Yet to see TG on the field, but knowing a few of their sheets from prior races, as someone noted earlier, this will be a prep for 8th in the Preakness.

Pedigree Ann 04-20-2007 11:55 AM

I've been high on Etude for several months. His dam was about the only Groovy offspring to run well at 9f+, so I think she is more her dam's daughter than her sire's. (It happens, just like in people.) Not bred to be an early star, should be better as the year goes on, and next year. Sort of like Brass Hat.

Mortimer 04-20-2007 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
I've been high on Etude for several months. His dam was about the only Groovy offspring to run well at 9f+, so I think she is more her dam's daughter than her sire's. (It happens, just like in people.) Not bred to be an early star, should be better as the year goes on, and next year. Sort of like Brass Hat.


Hi.

Kasept 04-21-2007 04:39 PM

Glad we brought Mark Shuman to ATRAB Friday.. All he did was win the three stakes he was in today at Pimlico.. Xchanger demolishes them with Etude flat and off the board..

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2007 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Glad we brought Mark Shuman to ATRAB Friday.. All he did was win the three stakes he was in today at Pimlico.. Xchanger demolishes them with Etude flat and off the board..

He was impressive...glad they're skipping the Derby
May be a "wiseguy" horse in the Preakness off that effort.

Kasept 04-21-2007 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
He was impressive...glad they're skipping the Derby
May be a "wiseguy" horse in the Preakness off that effort.

Shuman said he'd have to be really impressive for them to think Preakness. Liking Old Hilltop is a big plus when making that decision.. Tough call...

declansharbor 04-21-2007 10:00 PM

Altough he didnt beat any top tier horses, he looked impressive doing it.. It looked as if it was just another morning workout..

phystech 04-22-2007 08:22 AM

Listening to Shuman's comments after the race yesterday, and seeing the look on his face, I say he's got a Derby starter - I think he was impressed with the effort.

miraja2 04-22-2007 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Just looked at the pp, and I think Etude is a VERY solid single here. The horse finished second in his first three and was very wide in each of those races.
Since then he has picked up three victories in a row including a nice score in the Private Terms last out against a field of ten which included one of his opponents here (Saratoga Lul).
His works for this race - 5f in 1:02 followed by a slow mile work - are exactly what he did before the Private Terms when he ran a big one.
He has demonstrated a versatile running style, and his dam (Groovy Feeling) was a G2 winner going 10f, so the stretching out to 9f may not be a problem for him.
He will probaby be odds-on so there isn't any value, but I would be surprised if he doesn't win it.

Maybe I should take up fishing, or watching MLS or something.
I need some kind of new hobby....I obviously stink at this one.

Cannon Shell 04-22-2007 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
I've been high on Etude for several months. His dam was about the only Groovy offspring to run well at 9f+, so I think she is more her dam's daughter than her sire's. (It happens, just like in people.) Not bred to be an early star, should be better as the year goes on, and next year. Sort of like Brass Hat.

I remember a horse named Hollywood Handsome that was by Groovy that used to run long on the turf. Actually that is the only horse I can recall who was by Groovy and I'm sure I only remember him because he was so different than his sire

Cannon Shell 04-22-2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by phystech
Listening to Shuman's comments after the race yesterday, and seeing the look on his face, I say he's got a Derby starter - I think he was impressed with the effort.

He is 5-1 in the future book for the Derby

































Ohio version

The Bid 04-23-2007 11:12 AM

The look on Shumans face may have been because he does have a monster. The other horse he started that day is a monster, not xchanger, Talent Search


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