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Danzig 05-02-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
What makes it worse is that you can't even embrace the small time people making it big because, besides Borel, these people are dreadful.

lol

not really. maybe not so polished. but if polished gives you ieah, i'll take that guy on crutches any day.
i told my husband the guy had a fancy new spittoon now. :D

Sightseek 05-02-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Why do they have some nasty backstory? I did hear the trainer give credit to the former trainer, which I thought was nice.

The trainer just seems like a jerk and makes Pletcher look like Mr. Outgoing and Spontaneous.

Rileyoriley 05-02-2009 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
What makes it worse is that you can't even embrace the small time people making it big because, besides Borel, these people are dreadful.

I'll take them over the group from last year any day.:)

Danzig 05-02-2009 06:32 PM

from kyderby.com:



Mine That Bird pulled the second-biggest upset in Derby history, eclipsed only by Donerail's famous 91-1 shocker in 1913.

Mine That Bird also became the first Canadian champion juvenile to wear the roses since Sunny's Halo in 1983. The winner of the Grey S. (Can-G3), Swynford S. and Silver Deputy S. on Woodbine's Polytrack last season, he rewarded his backers with payouts of $103.20, $54 and $25.80.

Pioneerof the Nile held second narrowly, paying $8.40 and $6.40, while third-place finisher Musket Man (Yonaguska) returned $12. The exacta was worth $2,074.80, the trifecta totaled $41,500.60, and with Papa Clem (Smart Strike) in fourth, the 8-16-2-7 superfecta was good for $557,006.38.

Completing the order of finish were Chocolate Candy (Candy Ride [Arg]), Summer Bird (Birdstone), Join in the Dance (Sky Mesa), Regal Ransom (Distorted Humor), West Side Bernie (Bernstein), General Quarters (Sky Mesa), Dunkirk (Unbridled's Song), Hold Me Back (Giant's Causeway), Advice (Chapel Royal), Desert Party (Street Cry [Ire]), Mr. Hot Stuff (Tiznow), Atomic Rain (Smart Strike), Nowhere to Hide (Vindication), 7-2 favorite Friesan Fire (A.P. Indy) and Flying Private (Fusaichi Pegasus).

Danzig 05-02-2009 06:33 PM

friesan fire does things a bit differently...instead of finishing second like the last two years, porter/jones finish second to last.

ouch!

cowgirlintexas 05-02-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
from kyderby.com:



Mine That Bird pulled the second-biggest upset in Derby history, eclipsed only by Donerail's famous 91-1 shocker in 1913.

Mine That Bird also became the first Canadian champion juvenile to wear the roses since Sunny's Halo in 1983. The winner of the Grey S. (Can-G3), Swynford S. and Silver Deputy S. on Woodbine's Polytrack last season, he rewarded his backers with payouts of $103.20, $54 and $25.80.

Pioneerof the Nile held second narrowly, paying $8.40 and $6.40, while third-place finisher Musket Man (Yonaguska) returned $12. The exacta was worth $2,074.80, the trifecta totaled $41,500.60, and with Papa Clem (Smart Strike) in fourth, the 8-16-2-7 superfecta was good for $557,006.38.

Completing the order of finish were Chocolate Candy (Candy Ride [Arg]), Summer Bird (Birdstone), Join in the Dance (Sky Mesa), Regal Ransom (Distorted Humor), West Side Bernie (Bernstein), General Quarters (Sky Mesa), Dunkirk (Unbridled's Song), Hold Me Back (Giant's Causeway), Advice (Chapel Royal), Desert Party (Street Cry [Ire]), Mr. Hot Stuff (Tiznow), Atomic Rain (Smart Strike), Nowhere to Hide (Vindication), 7-2 favorite Friesan Fire (A.P. Indy) and Flying Private (Fusaichi Pegasus).

OMG! :eek:

MaTH716 05-02-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
friesan fire does things a bit differently...instead of finishing second like the last two years, porter/jones finish second to last.

ouch!

Not making excuses for FF, but it seemed that he was slammed hard on the break and then pinched. Never got going after that.

philcski 05-02-2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
from kyderby.com:



Mine That Bird pulled the second-biggest upset in Derby history, eclipsed only by Donerail's famous 91-1 shocker in 1913.

Mine That Bird also became the first Canadian champion juvenile to wear the roses since Sunny's Halo in 1983. The winner of the Grey S. (Can-G3), Swynford S. and Silver Deputy S. on Woodbine's Polytrack last season, he rewarded his backers with payouts of $103.20, $54 and $25.80.

Pioneerof the Nile held second narrowly, paying $8.40 and $6.40, while third-place finisher Musket Man (Yonaguska) returned $12. The exacta was worth $2,074.80, the trifecta totaled $41,500.60, and with Papa Clem (Smart Strike) in fourth, the 8-16-2-7 superfecta was good for $557,006.38.

Completing the order of finish were Chocolate Candy (Candy Ride [Arg]), Summer Bird (Birdstone), Join in the Dance (Sky Mesa), Regal Ransom (Distorted Humor), West Side Bernie (Bernstein), General Quarters (Sky Mesa), Dunkirk (Unbridled's Song), Hold Me Back (Giant's Causeway), Advice (Chapel Royal), Desert Party (Street Cry [Ire]), Mr. Hot Stuff (Tiznow), Atomic Rain (Smart Strike), Nowhere to Hide (Vindication), 7-2 favorite Friesan Fire (A.P. Indy) and Flying Private (Fusaichi Pegasus).

If it wasn't for Borel and being the Kentucky Derby he would have been 250-1. Seriously. On form he was 15 lengths off of possible.

10 pnt move up 05-02-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
If it wasn't for Borel and being the Kentucky Derby he would have been 250-1. Seriously. On form he was 15 lengths off of possible.

horses dont go off long anymore after 2005.

CSC 05-02-2009 06:51 PM

Glad to see Summer Bird not disgrace himself, I think this horse has some talent.

Sightseek 05-02-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Glad to see Summer Bird not disgrace himself, I think this horse has some talent.

It's a darn good thing horses don't care like we do over who wins because I would be disgraced to walk back to the barn after being beat by Mine That Bird. LOL

SCUDSBROTHER 05-02-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
If it wasn't for Borel and being the Kentucky Derby he would have been 250-1. Seriously. On form he was 15 lengths off of possible.

I'm not much of a figure player, but I sure don't see anything that would say he was fast enough to do what he did. Can say all they want 'bout Canada, but he's been too slow.

GenuineRisk 05-02-2009 07:01 PM

I thought the trainer looked a bit shy, not arrogant at all.

Found an article from the courier-journal about him- it says he thought Mine That Bird's connections were "stretching it" to enter him in the Derby. Heh. One of the owners says in it, "We'll run better than people have predicted." Uh, yeah. I'll say.

From Rodeo to Kentucky Derby

MaTH716 05-02-2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I'm not much of a figure player, but I sure don't see anything that would say he was fast enough to do what he did. Can say all they want 'bout Canada, but he's been too slow.

The horse got a great trip (helped by a golden rail) and freaked in the mud!

Danzig 05-02-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Not making excuses for FF, but it seemed that he was slammed hard on the break and then pinched. Never got going after that.

lol

yet you did just that.

CSC 05-02-2009 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
It's a darn good thing horses don't care like we do over who wins because I would be disgraced to walk back to the barn after being beat by Mine That Bird. LOL

It is rather hard to figure, the horse will probably never win another race in his career. :rolleyes: sarcastic eyeroll. He ruined my tickets but what the hey good for Borel and the connections, it is somewhat reassuring that the derby still cannot be bought with simple :$:

Danzig 05-02-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
It is rather hard to figure, the horse will probably never win another race in his career. :rolleyes: sarcastic eyeroll. He ruined my tickets but what the hey good for Borel and the connections, it is somewhat reassuring that the derby still cannot be bought with simple :$:


but it can...cost them 9500 hundred to buy that horse. amazing.

CSC 05-02-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
but it can...cost them 9500 hundred to buy that horse. amazing.

I wonder if Godolphin will adopt this philosophy. Another eyeroll...:rolleyes:

Give them credit they are improving.

outofthebox 05-02-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
but it can...cost them 9500 hundred to buy that horse. amazing.

they bought him privately after his Grey Stakes in Canada for 400k.


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