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Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It doesn't strengthen your argument....it weakens it substantially.

Again, this is absurd....there is no righ, or kind of right, or maybe right, or anything like that....there is no strength of opinions and closer to the fact or further from the facts in stating opinions....

It is my opinion that he was one of the most talented horses since the Bid and that he was the best horse I have ever seen - and I don't need anyone to validate that....

Pointg5 11-08-2006 01:56 PM

Isn't it possible your instincts are not as good as you think?

Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Isn't it possible your instincts are not as good as you think?

Maybe...it is also possible that North Korea will nuke us tomorrow :D

Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 02:03 PM

I never used any of your quotes in that post...not one - intentionally anyway. Quit giving yourself so much credit :D

Ohhpp, guess you deleted the post.....

Pointg5 11-08-2006 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Maybe...it is also possible that North Korea will nuke us tomorrow :D

Okay, that's fine...

If he would have won, we would have seen a 100 posts from you telling how right you were, even you can't deny that(truthfully), so by winning it proves you right, but losing doesn't prove you wrong...Can't be both ways...

LARHAGE 11-08-2006 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
That's hilarious... we are of opposite opinions...

I buy my cars foreign (love Toyotas) and I'm a domestic beer drinker. Dammit... it's 5:00 somewhere, isn't it? HAHA! :D

Hey, I'm with you, I too love Toyota's, but as far as men, prefer domestic! :D

Cajungator26 11-08-2006 02:12 PM

Why does there have to be a right or wrong regarding this? I saw the race unfold in a different manner, and we all know that "opinions are like a$$holes... everybody's got one." :D

Cajungator26 11-08-2006 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE
Hey, I'm with you, I too love Toyota's, but as far as men, prefer domestic! :D

I'm with you there!!! :cool:

Pointg5 11-08-2006 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Why does there have to be a right or wrong regarding this? I saw the race unfold in a different manner, and we all know that "opinions are like a$$holes... everybody's got one." :D

That's true, I have formed my opinions and I was rewarded for them, but I can guarantee I will have a wrong opinion in the future...It's a problem with most people, not just on this board, they never will admit they are wrong, I can't save them all....

Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Okay, that's fine...

If he would have won, we would have seen a 100 posts from you telling how right you were, even you can't deny that(truthfully), so by winning it proves you right, but losing doesn't prove you wrong...Can't be both ways...

Ask yourself this, would you have came on here and posted that I was right if he had won?...This is absurd...who cares?....the only thing I am saying is that I don't think he ran his best race and that I believe he is still one of the best horses in the last 15-20 years.......yes he lost, that is a fact...

Geez..:eek:

Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
That's true, I have formed my opinions and I was rewarded for them, but I can guarantee I will have a wrong opinion in the future...It's a problem with most people, not just on this board, they never will admit they are wrong, I can't save them all....

The only thing I was wrong about is that he lost the race, which most handicappers are wrong more times than they are righ about a race...big deal

You are also considered a good hitter in the Major Leagues if you fail only 70% of the time......

Pointg5 11-08-2006 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Ask yourself this, would you have came on here and posted that I was right if he had won?...This is absurd...who cares?....the only thing I am saying is that I don't think he ran his best race and that I believe he is still one of the best horses in the last 15-20 years.......yes he lost, that is a fact...

Geez..:eek:


Yes, I would have admitted you were right and he could have been a great horse. I have admitted I was wrong before, it's no big deal...

If you want to believe that he's one of the best in the last 15-20 years, that's fine, what I saw was a horse who didn't have the other best horse in the race breakdown and he was faced with adversity, and he wasn't a great, but still very good.

Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
One of the funniest threads in a long time. Also one of the most telling. It's very easy to come on here and pat yourself on the back, and say how you should be arrested for robbery because you caught a $7 horse. But when you make claims for MONTHS about how good the horses you like are, and how you predict they will win specific races, well when they don't, be a man and admit it. The "they didn't run their race thing" is lame. We have all had to listen about Scat Daddy for months. There were excuses after the Hopeful, he had a bad trip. Then when he won, it was I told you so. Then we hear about how 2 turns will be no problem, and he'll win the Juvy. Well he didn't, and the funny thing is, no one would have said a word, had you not gloated after the Champagne. Opinions are one thing, yeah we all have them. And in this game, you will be wrong a lot more than you will be right. but when you lay it all out there on 2 horses, and they both don't win, well you have to eat some crow. And suprisingly Joel you aren't. Grow up. Had either one had won, could you imagine the threads we would have had to read. I can see them now. Instead of owning up, you hide for a few days, and when you come out of your hole you are making excuses. Pathetic......

I knew Scat Daddy was not going to run well when I saw him in the flesh making the walk over to the paddock for the race...his coat looked very dull as to say he wasn't at the top of his game after a hard and eventful 2-year-old campaign....

You grow up and realize that anything can happen in this sport...Secretariat also had his bad days and lost....so did Spectacular Bid and many of the other great ones, etc........it happens...they are not machines....

If you hold me down on how a horse is doing when I make a claim months before a race than that is just plain retarded.....If the horse looked good and ran his race and just got beat - then I would have admitted it...I have before and you'll probably see me do it again in the future....

I gave you this horse before he ever even lined up in the gate, and he is a Grade 1 winner and multiple graded stakes winner and top 2-year-old --- come back and talk to me when you can do that.....untill then, just shut up and try and learn a few things where you can while making your meaningless, uninformed, and uncredible posts.

Have a nice day :)

Five Star Derek 11-08-2006 06:40 PM

Joel-Thanks a lot. You cost me fortune betting Scat Daddy thinking he's a lock. Just kidding. Actually I did ok on BC day. It would have been a great day if I didn't single Henny. Thought Henny was the lock of the day.
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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
I knew Scat Daddy was not going to run well when I saw him in the flesh making the walk over to the paddock for the race...his coat looked very dull as to say he wasn't at the top of his game after a hard and eventful 2-year-old campaign....

You grow up and realize that anything can happen in this sport...Secretariat also had his bad days and lost....so did Spectacular Bid and many of the other great ones, etc........it happens...they are not machines....

If you hold me down on how a horse is doing when I make a claim months before a race than that is just plain retarded.....If the horse looked good and ran his race and just got beat - then I would have admitted it...I have before and you'll probably see me do it again in the future....

I gave you this horse before he ever even lined up in the gate, and he is a Grade 1 winner and multiple graded stakes winner and top 2-year-old --- come back and talk to me when you can do that.....untill then, just shut up and try and learn a few things where you can while making your meaningless, uninformed, and uncredible posts.

Have a nice day :)


Cajungator26 11-08-2006 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Five Star Derek
Joel-Thanks a lot. You cost me fortune betting Scat Daddy thinking he's a lock. Just kidding. Actually I did ok on BC day. It would have been a great day if I didn't single Henny. Thought Henny was the lock of the day.

Ditto... Henny and Ouija Board.

Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
So it's retarded to hold you to your word? You were the one making the claim. Oh right this is the internet. The place where you can say whatever you want, and never be held accountable. But we both know had he won, you would have been on here Saturday night gloating. The thread would have resembled your post Champagne thread. Thats the thing, can you not see that all you are doing is making excuses. His coat didn't look good, and he has had a hard campaign. And stop acting like you were the only one that thought highly of this horse before his first start. He was 3-5 in his debut, and it was hardly a well kept secret that he was a good one. Lots of people knew it as well. It's cool, I'm comfortable with my credibilty, and I don't need to try and make myself feel better about myself by showing everyone who I know, and what I do. Can you say the same thing?

You are OBVIOUSLY an insecure person and know deep down that I know more than you about this game - or you would not be always trying to bust me on things.

Ask yourself these two things:

How many times have you commended me for being right when I presented insight on something that came true?....NONE

How many times have I ever responded to any of your threads in a negative fashion without being previously prevoked by you?.....NONE

Again, just sit back and absorb some knowledge for a few more years and you may actually learn something - perhaps enough so that you don't have to make so many insecure posts that do not contribute any value to this chat board.

For example, getting good enough to actually make BOLD predictions (imagine that) instead of being a follower who just enjoys coming on here to get off by busting on others who know more than you.

Stay uninformed and have a nice day. :)

Cunningham Racing 11-08-2006 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Five Star Derek
Joel-Thanks a lot. You cost me fortune betting Scat Daddy thinking he's a lock. Just kidding. Actually I did ok on BC day. It would have been a great day if I didn't single Henny. Thought Henny was the lock of the day.

Hey, I told everyone who would listen to use Street Sense...I would never have singled Scat Daddy, especially after he looked on the walkover....I used 4 horses in the race and they were Scat Daddy, C P West, Street Sense and Great Hunter - and I liked them in that order.....


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