why what? surprised at lovie, or not surprised at the others?

and not just norv gone, but the chargers gm as well. gm should have been sent packing years ago.

Why are you suprised about Lovie?

i just figured a 10-6 record would give him another year. surprised, but i don't disagree with the move at all. they have missed going to the playoffs too often with him there.

Bingo.

What sane organization would hire Norv Turner? The guy is a proven loser with too many chances already.

Decent offensive coordinator, not a head coach. I think the same might apply for Wisenhunt and Chan Gailey and probably Jason Garrett and Mularkey too. Same goes for Lovie except on defense.

that takes care of about 2/3 of the problem. now if there was only a way they could get rid of spanos...

i figure reid will land in a good spot relatively quickly. most of the others do need to return to and remain in a coordinator position. if i was with the saints or rams i'd be calling lovie.

I would think the Colts will need an OC next year too.

denver too. i figure theirs wil be a head coach soon.

At this point, I believe that the NY Jets owner has to go...

Can't believe that Rex is still head coach - -great defensive coordinator, but clueless as a head coach....

I am no fan of Rex's but he would be a much "better" head coach if he had a good QB (like most other "good" head coaches)

so true.
shanahan was a good coach when he had elway. then elway left and he became a not so good coach, and was fired.. now he has griffin, so suddenly he's a good coach again.

No suprise, Sparano out as offensive coordinator.

Is there any past history of keeping the head coach and firing just about everyone else in the front office and the coaching staff working? I'm not taking a shot at the Jets or Ryan but I can't remember this type of thing working out.

When they fire the coaches staff, they are trying to force a resignation.

I think that is usually true but not in this case. Woody and Ryan seem to have a different relationship than most owner/coachs.

They want to continue in the long line of making one asinine decision after the other.

At this point I just wish Woody Johnson would sell, because he is as much the problem as any. He has no idea what he is doing.

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