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clyde 11-10-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 816827)
He is a scrawny, middle-aged, grey-haired man with a tired THUD Internet Land act.

If someone -- who had nothing better to do, like Morty -- actually took him up on his invite to come to his house, Morty would get his ass kicked so badly, it wouldn't be funny.

Even to a lame jokester like Morty.

Like I said once before...deeds, not words.

Calzone Lord 11-10-2011 04:55 PM

Before and After:


What Mike McQueary looked like before witnessing Sandusky buttfucl<ing a 10-year-old in the shower:




What McQueary looked like after witnessing it:


Dahoss 11-10-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 816731)
Yeah, it's horrible of me to think that everyone out in the State College streets last night is not a despicable human being with no potential or future. Maybe I'll start posting in the paddock more. I saw my school called a cesspool. I simply disagreed and made some ironic points. The facts are you really don't know a single thing about me personally. It's a freaking message board.

It is a cesspool. After what went on there, the entire place is disgraced. Nothing against you personally, I don't know you, nor do I care to. But it is what it is.

I get they are college kids, but it doesn't excuse their ignorance. We all did (and continue to do) stupid things, and of course they aren't all despicable human beings. But at some point a little rational thought has to occur right?

Dahoss 11-10-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 816826)
I do follow you...public opinion blows.



They want to play like they know everything and how oh so tough they are...and certainly THEY would report Johnny on the spot if they were in a similar situation.

I don't believe it.

I'm honest enough to say I am not sure what I would do...given a similar situtation.



The rest is just them dropping their i-net puds on the table.

Touchy-touchy

Dahoss 11-10-2011 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 816836)
I never knew that you were a horse racing fan.

Interesting reference.

I still can't believe Lukas ran him in the Gotham.

clyde 11-10-2011 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 816835)
Touchy-touchy



Tracky Bratty

clyde 11-10-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 816836)
I never knew that you were a horse racing fan.

Interesting reference.



The things you don't know would fill PPJ's head.

Danzig 11-10-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 816826)
I do follow you...public opinion blows.



They want to play like they know everything and how oh so tough they are...and certainly THEY would report Johnny on the spot if they were in a similar situation.

I don't believe it.

I'm honest enough to say I am not sure what I would do...given a similar situtation.



The rest is just them dropping their i-net puds on the table.

i won't bore you with the sordid details of my youth; but suffice it to say, that i can relate to the victims all too well, and would most definitely not stand idly by. i can't answer for others here, but i do know me.
people say 'walk a mile first'...some of us have.

satan's twin 11-10-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 816817)
Gee Satan's Twin, tell us how you really feel. I actually agree with many of your points, where I differ is that I do believe in due process and you are assuming a lot seems to me. Does Sandusky have dirt on Paterno? Perhaps but while that makes some intuitive sense it's a long way from fact. The chief complaint I have is that everyone seems so willing to accept that McCreary told Paterno the same thing he told the grand jury...this from a guy who walks into a scene where a young boy is being savaged by an old man and instead of stopping the child's torment, he turns and runs away. Is this a man of virtue and character, a man who years later tries to make himself into some sort of a hero in front of a grand jury? There is no defense for what Sandusky did and no defense for those involved in the coverup which allowed this animal to continue torturing kids, I just would like to see a little solid evidence that Paterno's motive was to participate in the coverup. All in all, now that it's done, PSU probably had no choice but to terminate Paterno's employment but it just adds to the foul taste in my mouth. I agree that the students rioting are clueless and should face prosecution where warranted. Finally, name calling does not advance your position...and I'm a witch, not a warlock...which is a negative term to us.

Somer--First of all, sorry about the witch/warlock mix-up. My bad. Just go ahead and deduct two bolts of fire and three demonic curses from my paycheck this week for that one.

I don't advocate the suspension of due process for anyone. I do think that the application of logic and common sense are enough to listen to evidence and pass judgment in a grand jury. That was done in this case and the results were released to the public. Based on that evidence, it was clear Paterno heard before anyone a despondent graduate assistant give an eye-witness account to him of a rape he witnessed less than a day before in the locker room, of a child, by the assistant head coach of Penn State. And based on what he heard that gutless creep chose not to call the police, as mandated by federal law, Instead, he put "his legacy", his self-interest, ahead of everything. The two sheep who,technically, sat in positions of authority over Paterno, then orchestrated a cover-up of the crime by labeling it "horseplay" and then lied to law enforcement officials about what they heard and what they knew. In fact, Paterno was, perhaps, the most revered person in the state and arguably, one of the most powerful. As we now know, neither of these eunichs had the moral compass to do the right thing. They swept the crime under the rug, kept a monster in place to commit despicable acts for another decade and, thank god, didn't ruffle the feathers of a great man and his legendary program.

Whether McCreary told Paterno a less damning version of events than the one he told the grand jury is irrelevant. Paterno already knew who Sandusky was. There were other reports about his actions before this one. Forget the allegations of rape. Who in their right mind would keep an employee on his staff who was known to take showers with little boys in the locker room? On top of that, this jerk let Sandusky parade a litany of young boys around his locker rooms for years knowing full well each of those boys was probably a victim of unspeakable acts by the twisted f*ck that he allowed to stand next to them.

It's be-witching to me that you would think I am jumping to conclusions in this case. When you're sitting over your cauldron tonight boiling a tasty pot of newts eyes, read the grand jury report for this case. I'll bet you get so damn mad after you finish reading it, you'll put a nasty hex on JoePa.

clyde 11-10-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 816843)
i won't bore you with the sordid details of my youth; but suffice it to say, that i can relate to the victims all too well, and would most definitely not stand idly by. i can't answer for others here, but i do know me.
people say 'walk a mile first'...some of us have.




No you haven't...not until Tony is confronted with the same problem....and he wants you to tell him what to do.



Report to the police...and get fired and be blackballed?




No more ATM card 4 u.

Danzig 11-10-2011 05:44 PM

i'll just chalk your comments up to not knowing my husband nearly as well as i do. he wouldn't take time to call and ask me what to do, he'd already know what to do.

clyde 11-10-2011 05:45 PM

Oh really?



OK...if you say so.

jms62 11-10-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 816847)
No you haven't...not until Tony is confronted with the same problem....and he wants you to tell him what to do.



Report to the police...and get fired and be blackballed?




No more ATM card 4 u.

If you get fired for reporting a crime like this then I would think you would never have to work again after winning massive lawsuit. This isn't Doctor Patient confidentiality that is being breached.

Calzone Lord 11-10-2011 06:36 PM

I hear the only reason why McQueary will be allowed to coach this week and probably won't be fired is because of the Whistleblower laws in the state of PA.

clyde 11-10-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 816856)
If you get fired for reporting a crime like this then I would think you would never have to work again after winning massive lawsuit. This isn't Doctor Patient confidentiality that is being breached.


Really?



Not so sure myself.

Danzig 11-10-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 816856)
If you get fired for reporting a crime like this then I would think you would never have to work again after winning massive lawsuit. This isn't Doctor Patient confidentiality that is being breached.

yep, there are whistleblower laws to prevent you from being punished because you ratted out some bigshot who would 'never, ever' do anything because he's 'not stupid'. you know, the assmussen defense.

there are people who won't open their mouths, because they don't want to get caught up in stuff, or they're scared, etc. thankfully not everyone is like that.
my husband gets grief at work because he opens his mouth-he's a safety advocate now, so he butts heads with his supervisor who is after production quotas. thankfully there are people who want things right, not fast, and make sure rules are followed.

Danzig 11-10-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 816860)
I hear the only reason why McQueary will be allowed to coach this week and probably won't be fired is because of the Whistleblower laws in the state of PA.

you may be right, slate had a piece asking why is he still there.

Calzone Lord 11-10-2011 07:58 PM

1982 article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...85/1/index.htm


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