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RolloTomasi 05-16-2011 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 776811)
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His damside is typical of a Ned Evans homebred. His dam was a 3x route winner and has already produced 3 other route winners. City Zip, of course, is a half to Ghostzapper and has produced numerous route stakes winners on turf and dirt. If Dance City gets tired late it will be because he had to chase very fast fractions, not because of his pedigree IMO.
I want Dance City to be an also-ran/bridesmaid in the Preakness, Dwyer, and Jim Dandy so I can get a decent price when he makes his turf debut in the National Racing Hall of Fame Stakes at Saratoga.

slotdirt 05-17-2011 08:44 AM
Just read about Mucho Macho Man's work this morning. I've been wanting to play against, but the DRF article painted a pretty nice picture of the effort. Did anybody happen to catch his spin at Belmont this a.m.?

randallscott35 05-17-2011 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 776891)
Just read about Mucho Macho Man's work this morning. I've been wanting to play against, but the DRF article painted a pretty nice picture of the effort. Did anybody happen to catch his spin at Belmont this a.m.?
Why play against? He is the most likely winner of the Preakness.

randallscott35 05-17-2011 08:52 AM
Nehro is out

hockey2315 05-17-2011 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 776893)
Nehro is out
Good.

knickslions2 05-17-2011 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 776892)
Why play against? He is the most likely winner of the Preakness.
I like Machos chances but Dialed in is going to very dangerous in this one

hockey2315 05-17-2011 09:42 AM
Dialed In is going to be a terrible bet for the second time in a row. i like Sway Away price-wise. I want to like Dance City, but the pace scenario worries me. I'll still use him.

Travis Stone 05-17-2011 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 776905)
I want to like Dance City, but the pace scenario worries me. I'll still use him.
Same here... he ran big in the Arkansas Derby...

NTamm1215 05-17-2011 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 776892)
Why play against? He is the most likely winner of the Preakness.
As long as he gets over the cold he got from the gust of wind created when Animal Kingdom ran right by him in the Derby.

Dahoss 05-17-2011 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 776905)
Dialed In is going to be a terrible bet for the second time in a row. i like Sway Away price-wise. I want to like Dance City, but the pace scenario worries me. I'll still use him.
Shockingly....we like the same horses.

3kings 05-17-2011 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 776938)
Shockingly....we like the same horses.
Bad news for you and Hockey, that is where I'm leaning too

slotdirt 05-17-2011 12:36 PM
Isn't the Preakness more or less a favorite's race though? When was the last time a true longshot won the thing? Would Louis Quatorze qualify somehow?

blackthroatedwind 05-17-2011 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 776951)
Isn't the Preakness more or less a favorite's race though? When was the last time a true longshot won the thing? Would Louis Quatorze qualify somehow?
Bernardini paid $27.

randallscott35 05-17-2011 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 776928)
As long as he gets over the cold he got from the gust of wind created when Animal Kingdom ran right by him in the Derby.
Hmmm. You think AK is going to repeat that race huh? You get all of 2-1 for that. Enjoy

blackthroatedwind 05-17-2011 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 776953)
Hmmm. You think AK is going to repeat that race huh? You get all of 2-1 for that. Enjoy
Nick's opinion is significantly better than yours.

randallscott35 05-17-2011 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 776955)
Nick's opinion is significantly better than yours.
Gosh I hope so.

Clip-Clop 05-17-2011 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 776952)
Bernardini paid $27.
Certainly an anomaly though. No? Wasn't he the second choice at that number too?

blackthroatedwind 05-17-2011 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 776957)
Certainly an anomaly though. No? Wasn't he the second choice at that number too?
No, not the second choice, but overall I have no argument with the post I answered. It is generally a relatively formful race.

parsixfarms 05-17-2011 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 776951)
Isn't the Preakness more or less a favorite's race though? When was the last time a true longshot won the thing? Would Louis Quatorze qualify somehow?
I don't recall Louis Quatorze being that big a price (still double digits, however), even though he was far back in the Derby. Aside from the already noted Bernardini, the only other double digit winners that I recall in recent years were Charismatic and Red Bullet.

NTamm1215 05-17-2011 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 776953)
Hmmm. You think AK is going to repeat that race huh? You get all of 2-1 for that. Enjoy
The part of your assessment I referenced was that Mucho Macho Man is the likeliest winner. I can't see on what basis you can offer that opinion.

Whether AK is a good bet is a different issue altogether. That was neither something I mentioned nor something you brought up in your initial post.


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