Originally Posted by phystech

Let's be clear - I don't advocate the misuse of steroids - but as you point out, I do believe they serve a purpose when used properly.

Pertaining to Rick - I understand the opinion some have from watching 30 second snippets on TV. I can't claim to know this guy just because he caught my fastballs in high school 30 years ago. But I can tell you this - as teenagers, when he and his brothers liked something, they were all in. If it was a baseball team, a basketball team, or a 250 lb friend that entered disco dancing contests in 1975, Rick was all in. Whatever it was, he was all in.

That's the Rick I saw the last 5 weeks - all in.......

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

men should not expose feet unless the are Romans

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Getting rid of whips is something I simply cant understand. Use softer whips? Ok. Enforce the whip abuse rules? Sure. Get rid of them? That is too drastic of a change to the sport, it just is. It will not improve business and may well hurt it. Then what?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

men should not expose feet unless the are Romans

Originally Posted by Scav

You don't have a pair of sandals?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

men should not expose feet unless the are Romans

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

What Big Brown had was much worse than what Touch Gold had. Touch Gold did not have a quarter crack. Touch Gold had grabbed a quarter in his previous race but it wasn't a true quarter crack. I know that because my trainer was asking David Hofmans about it just a couple of days ago. Hofmans said that what Big Brown had was 100x worse.

Originally Posted by tiggerv

Truer words have never been spoken

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

throw out BB and the maiden and box the rest?

Originally Posted by pgardn

My cousin had six toes on each foot.
But they cut the last one off on each foot.

I may have just given too much information
about my possible genetic maladies.

Oh, he had six fingers also. Polydactyl bugger he was.

Originally Posted by tiggerv

I knew a guy in high school with an extra thumb on one hand. It was an endless source of bad jokes that involved tag team thumb wrestling and hitching a ride and having 2 cars pull over.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That would be a good option. They could use softer whips. But I really don't think that eliminating whips would be so drastic that it would hurt business. I don't hear anyone complaining that they don't use whips in the 2 furlong two year old races out here. I bet there are plenty of people that haven't even noticed.

Originally Posted by CSC

Where did you get your information? Is Hoffmans on the up and up? Touch Gold tore apart his hoof when he stumbled out of the gate at The Preakness, the same blacksmith that worked on him prior to the Belmont is the same one that worked on Big Brown for this Belmont. He has been quoted in numerous publications that what Touch Gold had was far worser than what Big Brown had. Anyway someone is not being completely truthful.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Hofmans was the trainer of Touch Gold. He would have no reason to lie to my trainer in a private conversation. Hofmans said that the horse grabbed a quarter in the Preakness.

Chuck could do a 100x better job than me explaining the difference between grabbing a quarter vs. a quarter crack.

Cannon, Could you please explain the difference between the two.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Hofmans was the trainer of Touch Gold. He would have no reason to lie to my trainer in a private conversation. Hofmans said that the horse grabbed a quarter in the Preakness.

Chuck could do a 100x better job than me explaining the difference between grabbing a quarter vs. a quarter crack.

Cannon, Could you please explain the difference between the two.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I'm about to watch kelly pavlick pound some Euro, maybe later


I believe hofmans btw

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

who won the Canterbury race?

Originally Posted by pgardn

If he is all in, then he knows how to take the good
and the bad the media can present through snippets.
He was presented in quite a favorable light with his daughter..

Originally Posted by pgardn

But I think we all understand that when he associates with
a guy who has misrepresented himself numerous times...Mr. Stock Trader...
that Dutrow himself will be highly scrutinized.

Or heck maybe he just does not care.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I'm about to watch kelly pavlick pound some Euro, maybe later


I believe hofmans btw