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The Bid 07-11-2007 05:10 PM

Shes done nothing but run her eyeballs out each time shes started for DT. Pretty nice filly

10 pnt move up 07-11-2007 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
They go up to 100k claimers for straight 3 yr old fillies.

*edit, you are correct. The higher end claimers in the condition book are mostly AOC's. To answer your question no, not for 35k*

not in the last few years, maybe 50k max, and not talking OC because that is an alw race condition.

The Bid 07-11-2007 05:11 PM

If she ran in a 50k claimer she would be claimed. She would be claimed up to 100

Antitrust32 07-11-2007 05:11 PM

Oh she's a heckofa filly

I'm sure there isnt an owner in America that wouldnt want her in their barn!

Bigsmc 07-11-2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
They don't go any LOWER than 30K claiming at the Spa.

She'll have some nice allowance spots as well as (likely easier) 50K spots...

They have extras written for CLM20k for the first Thursday

ateamstupid 07-11-2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Sometimes you are better off letting one relax themselves as opposed to holding them. It took just enough out of her to cost them the race. Mojica didnt help shooting up the rail with a crow, but thats where Willie makes all the difference, good or bad. Im a very bad jockey basher, but I always believe if you lose by a half you could have won.

I think she was the best horse in the race, when the best horse doesnt win its usually because of the trip, or ride.

While I agree that the ride wasn't ideal, I think that given the circumstances, it was a very good ride. I'm pretty sure that Willie was expecting at least a few others to go out for the lead early and that he could settle her behind them, but when no one even tried for the front, he had no choice but to grab it, and I think a filly like her DOES NOT want to give up the lead once she's got it. Then when the other two fillies came to him, she wanted to keep going, and that's what got her caught in that hot second quarter.

Or at least that's how I saw it.

Bigsmc 07-11-2007 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
not in the last few years, maybe 50k max, and not talking OC because that is an alw race condition.

I'm agreeing with you.

10 pnt move up 07-11-2007 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
I'm agreeing with you.

ok,

The Bid 07-11-2007 05:15 PM

I dont think it was a terrible ride at all, I think she should have won. Its more Mojica's fault on his 30-1 plug that cost her the race. Shooting that horse up the rail figured to liven the pace. I dont think she could have lost if he left her alone, I think all the guys riding that race knew if she got on a lonely lead it would have a greyhound race.

horseofcourse 07-11-2007 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
While I agree that the ride wasn't ideal, I think that given the circumstances, it was a very good ride. I'm pretty sure that Willie was expecting at least a few others to go out for the lead early and that he could settle her behind them, but when no one even tried for the front, he had no choice but to grab it, and I think a filly like her DOES NOT want to give up the lead once she's got it. Then when the other two fillies came to him, she wanted to keep going, and that's what got her caught in that hot second quarter.

Or at least that's how I saw it.

It looked to me like Willie had a snug and comfortable hold on her after she gave up the lead and all through the turn into the stretch. I thought she rated just fine...I really think he shot her on purpose from the start to get in good position in the 3 or 4 slot for the whole race.

Bigsmc 07-11-2007 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
While I agree that the ride wasn't ideal, I think that given the circumstances, it was a very good ride. I'm pretty sure that Willie was expecting at least a few others to go out for the lead early and that he could settle her behind them, but when no one even tried for the front, he had no choice but to grab it, and I think a filly like her DOES NOT want to give up the lead once she's got it. Then when the other two fillies came to him, she wanted to keep going, and that's what got her caught in that hot second quarter.
Or at least that's how I saw it.

That's how I saw it too ateam. Natural for any horse to not want them to pass and speed up in the process.

10 pnt move up 07-11-2007 05:19 PM

well she ran good no doubt but was she supposed to lose getting a pretty easy lead at 7/5?

The Bid 07-11-2007 05:19 PM

I think she got a little aggressive when the horse came up the inside of her. That horse was asked to go on and clear and she stayed glued.

pweizer 07-11-2007 05:21 PM

I agree with Danzig. This is the best $500 I have ever spent. I have yet to be able to see her live but I am having a ball. This is one nice filly. We are lucky to have her.

Paul

SuffolkGirl 07-11-2007 05:22 PM

Another game effort by our girl. I was at Suffolk Downs screaming at the screen - must say I had a few others urging her on also and they aren't part of the DT group. Hopefully she comes back sound, eats up and takes a great nap. If all comes back well, we can take solace in keeping her condition and getting a small check.

Looking forward to seeing her and everyone else at Saratoga!

SniperSB23 07-11-2007 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
well she ran good no doubt but was she supposed to lose getting a pretty easy lead at 7/5?

Only if you really think she should have been 7/5. I thought she should have been around 4/1 and for a 4/1 shot ran pretty well. She didn't really get that easy of a lead either once those two longshots shot up the rail on her.

10 pnt move up 07-11-2007 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Only if you really think she should have been 7/5. I thought she should have been around 4/1 and for a 4/1 shot ran pretty well. She didn't really get that easy of a lead either once those two longshots shot up the rail on her.

agree with that, with the scratches thats about right, but the public saw her chances different then I did, and I always give the public their credit and in this case maybe she was 7/5, though I wouldnt touch it.

philcski 07-11-2007 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
They have extras written for CLM20k for the first Thursday

They had one for the old warriors at 20K last year, but none for fillies less than 30K. Hope they keep it that way, nothing against the AQU inner trackers, I'm sure they enjoy summer vacation too

pointman 07-11-2007 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
this is all in good ribbing, but I am sure she lost to another stake horse today;)

you had her as a complete bounce candidate, the fact is she was the best horse in this field. The 6 got a dream trip and still had trouble passing her. Clearly the 6 is not a stakes horse, but was not the best horse in the race either.

I don't have a problem with Willy's ride and I am impressed that she was able to take off the lead and still make another run in the stretch. It's too bad that the Pletcher horse went as early as she did, to me that clearly forced Willy to go early, if the 8 doesn't move to the end of the turn she wins, she may even have held on if she changed her leads on time. Hopefully that will be corrected.

Plus, she probably needed a race in her. Congrats fellow DTers, we have a very nice filly that will probably run even better next time out with this race in her. Plus, she is clearly capable of running on two surfaces. I, for one, think she ran a hell of race again today and proved one more time that she is a game filly. The wins will come.:)

Hickory Hill Hoff 07-11-2007 05:43 PM

I check out the Toga condition book on Sunday night, there are a few spots she would look good in...I pointed them out on that link below...

Just got done looking at it...a couple of interesting spots for our Dee Tee runner; Sumwonlovesyou (all going long)

August 2nd - 2xmc/nw3/Opt.Clm.50 3&up
August 5th - 1xmc/nw2/Opt.Clm.75 3&up
July 30th - Overnight stake 3&up

there's a 60-50 claimer on August 13th, but it's a 5th listed sub-race (straight 3yr.olds)

these look like the best available from the first condition book


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