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Mortimer 04-12-2008 08:46 AM

Someone takes their sports much too seriously.


I could let it go if he typed some opinions making sense.For instance...CC has always been far too fragile upstairs;anyone with common sense knew that 2 to 3 years ago.

If elitist supporters of these elitist games do not follow.....perhaps they should drop back with the myspacers of the world and admit to all their doorknobbery.

Mortimer 04-12-2008 09:56 AM

W L PCT GB POS WC
2007 Cleveland Indians AL C 96 66 .593 -- 1
2006 Cleveland Indians AL C 78 84 .481 18.0 4
2005 Cleveland Indians AL C 93 69 .574 6.0 2
2004 Cleveland Indians AL C 80 82 .494 12.0 3
2003 Cleveland Indians AL C 68 94 .420 22.0 4
2002 Cleveland Indians AL C 74 88 .457 20.5 3
2001 Cleveland Indians AL C 91 71 .562

So Mr. MainCourse would like you to think ,other than 2001 and 2007, CC played on some really bad tams.

You be the judge how bad those teams were in those years.I might add CC continued to disappoint every year in that time frame offered by MainCourse...some of those years he wasn't even the best pitcher on the team.


Nice guy...so was Thome until it came time to use his popularity against the team so as to build out the highest possible contract squeeze he could....where ever that came from.

But at least Thome did not fragment in that last year.

He's a good to very good starting pitcher. His head keeps him from becoming an elite guy.

The Bid 04-12-2008 10:00 AM

Hes certainly not as good as he thinks he is.

Mortimer 04-12-2008 11:04 AM

Well ya know,Bid,I think he has $150,000,000 over 7 or 8 years...or more.....dancing in his head. 90 over 5 just wasn't his thing. Now...realizing he needs another last year to get that or a great year to get even more-----he is now in full spazz.


Predictable.



We got Lofton to solve the left field problem last year.

Now we have decided to start the year with the same problem.

We decided FG was a young guy to stick with in right.They stuck with him for about 8 games. That's the Indians braindust at work again. San Diego lifted Kusmanoff from us and liked him..started him at 3rd. Stuck with over one month at .130. Look at his final numbers. That's what happens when you stick with a guy you believe in.Leftfield is where Wedgie sticks with 2 guys for no apparent reason.

There was some good fortune at work for us last year.

It doesn't appear it will strike in the same place this year.

Hafner=Baerga=BIG TROUBLE!!

Mortimer 04-12-2008 11:10 AM

Before I hear it from a certain party or parties...read my new tag line.






And save your piglet breath.

Mortimer 04-12-2008 11:14 AM

I'm sure it will appear in a week or two.





:rolleyes:

Mortimer 04-12-2008 11:19 AM

The thing is...I don't like you either.

Mortimer 04-12-2008 11:20 AM

I'd like to welcome our newest member....FizzGirl.







God....where do they come up with these utterly stupid names?

The Bid 04-12-2008 11:26 AM

Baerga reminds me a lot of Heres Johnny. Same bat, same weight problem, same fielding problems. The only difference is Baerga got caught screwing Mesa's wife

Mortimer 04-12-2008 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
Baerga reminds me a lot of Heres Johnny. Same bat, same weight problem, same fielding problems. The only difference is Baerga got caught screwing Mesa's wife

Yoy.





But funny!








I liked Buggy. Great hitting 2nd baseman who wore a Dick Stuart model glove. If you recall...his hitting went south----very fast.I think that is what's happened to Hafner. The Indians are going to be hung with hat big contract for too long.


By the way....is that true about Buggy?

horseofcourse 04-12-2008 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
W L PCT GB POS WC
2007 Cleveland Indians AL C 96 66 .593 -- 1
2006 Cleveland Indians AL C 78 84 .481 18.0 4
2005 Cleveland Indians AL C 93 69 .574 6.0 2
2004 Cleveland Indians AL C 80 82 .494 12.0 3
2003 Cleveland Indians AL C 68 94 .420 22.0 4
2002 Cleveland Indians AL C 74 88 .457 20.5 3
2001 Cleveland Indians AL C 91 71 .562

So Mr. MainCourse would like you to think ,other than 2001 and 2007, CC played on some really bad tams.

You be the judge how bad those teams were in those years.I might add CC continued to disappoint every year in that time frame offered by MainCourse...some of those years he wasn't even the best pitcher on the team.


Nice guy...so was Thome until it came time to use his popularity against the team so as to build out the highest possible contract squeeze he could....where ever that came from.

But at least Thome did not fragment in that last year.

He's a good to very good starting pitcher. His head keeps him from becoming an elite guy.

Fine. I prefaced after his rookie year he played on some really bad teams and never complained. Was that not true? 4 losing teams in 5 years is not playing on some really bad teams?? I stand corrected on that I guess.

17-5 4.39 ERA 1.35 WHIP 2001 91-71 good team
13-11 4.37 ERA 1.36 WHIP 2002 74-88 really bad team
13-9 3.60 ERA 1.29 WHIP 2003 68-94 really bad team
11-10 4.12 ERA 1.31 WHIP 2004 80-82 bad team
15-10 4.03 ERA 1.25 WHIP 2005 93-69 good team
12-11 3.22 ERA 1.17 WHIP 2006 78-84 bad team
19-7 3.21 ERA 1.14 WHIP 2007 96-66 really good team


I don't see bad performance anywhere...I see really good performance after the 2004 season. I see he played on 2 bad teams, 2 really bad teams, and 2 good teams after his rookie season. I don't see where I was even wrong in what I said. But I am stupid so give me some slack.

Mortimer 04-12-2008 11:33 AM

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YAY!

Mortimer 04-12-2008 11:35 AM

I don't see bad performance anywhere...I see really good performance after the 2004 season. I see he played on 2 bad teams, 2 really bad teams, and 2 good teams after his rookie season. I don't see where I was even wrong in what I said. But I am stupid so give me some slack.
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God what a mark.

Mortimer 04-12-2008 11:40 AM

( I can't believe the guy actually replies.)


But anyway....






....point of reference.



68-94 is REALLY bad.....but one game shy of its mirror image is.......good.






A doorknob will always reveal itself....given enough time and rope----and directions showing how to use the rope.

horseofcourse 04-12-2008 11:46 AM

My semantics are off. I called really good teams good proving my idiocy (yes, that puts me right back in the vaporization chamber!!) IF you want semantics I'll call 4 of the teams bad and 2 of them good after his rookie year. He went 49-41 on teams a combined 48 games under .500. He went 51-22 on the teams that went 74 games over .500. He has won. His win percentage was NEVER under .500 on teams that couldn't win half their games EVER.

I am not going to trash a guy with 3 bad starts in 2008 as horrible and say it was obviously predictable. His ERA was over 6 after 1 start in his Cy Young season. I guess that means something.

Whatever...another good player in the city you don't like. I don't care. NO one does in all honesty. I'm simply here for entertainment purposes only.

horseofcourse 04-12-2008 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
( I can't believe the guy actually replies.)


But anyway....






....point of reference.



68-94 is REALLY bad.....but one game shy of its mirror image is.......good.






A doorknob will always reveal itself....given enough time and rope----and directions showing how to use the rope.

Point of reference...I don't call a team that lost 6 of it's last 7 games to the Royals, Devil Rays and the White Sox AAA team "really good"...when only losing 4 of those 7 puts you in post season. Perhaps you do. Point of reference...which starting pitcher won the only one of those last 7 games???

horseofcourse 04-12-2008 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
Someone takes their sports much too seriously.


I could let it go if he typed some opinions making sense.For instance...CC has always been far too fragile upstairs;anyone with common sense knew that 2 to 3 years ago.

If elitist supporters of these elitist games do not follow.....perhaps they should drop back with the myspacers of the world and admit to all their doorknobbery.

ok vincent.

Mortimer 04-12-2008 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse
My semantics are off. I called really good teams good proving my idiocy (yes, that puts me right back in the vaporization chamber!!) IF you want semantics I'll call 4 of the teams bad and 2 of them good after his rookie year. He went 49-41 on teams a combined 48 games under .500. He went 51-22 on the teams that went 74 games over .500. He has won. His win percentage was NEVER under .500 on teams that couldn't win half their games EVER.

I am not going to trash a guy with 3 bad starts in 2008 as horrible and say it was obviously predictable. His ERA was over 6 after 1 start in his Cy Young season. I guess that means something.

Whatever...another good player in the city you don't like. I don't care. NO one does in all honesty. I'm simply here for entertainment purposes only.


^^Spazz phase.

Mortimer 04-12-2008 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse
Point of reference...I don't call a team that lost 6 of it's last 7 games to the Royals, Devil Rays and the White Sox AAA team "really good"...when only losing 4 of those 7 puts you in post season. Perhaps you do. Point of reference...which starting pitcher won the only one of those last 7 games???


^^^Steps into Vaporization Chamber.

Mortimer 04-12-2008 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse
ok vincent.

^^^ Looking for instructions regarding FULL VAPORIZATION. dial setting.


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